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Old 10-02-2019, 01:55 AM
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Next expansion for P1999 is Legacy of Ykesha imho.
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Old 10-02-2019, 02:16 AM
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hmmm
The bazaar being a safezone really watered down the experience of trading.

RIP, faymart. i wiill nvr 4get u *sheds tear*
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also as a bard, let me just say: fuck horses. luclin models look their worst on a mount, but everyone wanted them on so they could all purchase one of my class-defining skills to use for themselves. lame.
To this day, nothing beats Bard speed, so I don't really understand what you're mad about.

Or I do, and you're a crazy person.
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Old 10-02-2019, 02:25 AM
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i've never seen what that god looked like until now
pretty dumb
a lot of eq lore was entirely skippable lets face it
and if not, such gems like this should be
not everything was great about eQ
I like when people let you know their opinion can be completely disregarded
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Old 10-02-2019, 04:56 AM
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i've never seen what that god looked like until now
pretty dumb
a lot of eq lore was entirely skippable lets face it
and if not, such gems like this should be
not everything was great about eQ
Not all powerful beings are supposed to match the expectations of mortals. Sometimes it's the one you least suspect--the man behind the curtain, the mule in Asimov's The Foundation, Keyser Soze, Yoda, etc.

Someone else argued that Brell shouldn't be a Paladin god, but he fits the race/class perfectly imo. Dwarves mine and smith steel from below. The identity of the classic holy knight has more or less been associated with a sword and suit of armor, both of which wouldn't exist with out miners and blacksmiths. Devotion to their god would, even on a superstitious level, reflect whether and to what extent believers would hit paydirt. In this case, the sword wouldn't descend from the heavens into a field or emerge from a fabled pond or stand out from exposed stone. Instead, the unrefined materials would be hauled from the depths then, in keeping with tradition, heirlooms would be crafted to resemble relics and eventually become relics of their own. Smithing would be considered a monastic ritual/ceremonial rite. Weapons and armor would not only be fashioned to protect their bodies, but to exalt their creator in preparation of meeting him should they die in battle, thus adding religious significance to the upkeep of their uniforms, beyond the usual discipline/attention to detail shown in military life. And in every war the crusaders would be emboldened wielding the manifestations of their faith, themselves having acted as their god had in creating them, unearthing potential in the compacted darkness. So it makes sense that the race would have significantly better cultural armor than others.

Others have said that Tunare shouldn't be a deity available to Paladins because nature has aspects that are unforgiving and amoral, but that observation ignores the rl lore most are familiar with--the archangel barring entry into the garden of Eden with a flaming 2h sword. Uriel, the equivalent of an Aasimar Oath of Vengeance Paladin.

Also, some rl mythological/religious figures are considered to be evil and good within any two denominations just based on interpretation of original texts. (See: Abaddon, better known from DotA2.) This sort of ambiguity makes for better lore imo, but it can also create balancing issues in games like these.

If anything, more deities could have been made available across racial divides, if not initially than through high level quests allowing players to renounce their god and convert to a different belief or abandon faith altogether, forever altering faction alignments. Certain NPCs were shown to have accomplished as much.

As for expanding race/class combinations? Seeing a halfling paladin once or twice hasn't been an immersion killer, similar to botb titles, but that may be due to the rarity of both. Thankfully halfling/gnome masks are ultra-rare, making the effect not much different from seeing guides in post-Velious gear or in the form of NPC races. It's an earned reward that adds flavor to interactions and RP potential for those who deviate from min/max norms.
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Old 10-02-2019, 05:25 AM
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Next expansion for P1999 is Legacy of Ykesha imho.
Didn't like that expac.... But well pirates! Yaar !
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:13 AM
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also as a bard, let me just say: fuck horses. luclin models look their worst on a mount, but everyone wanted them on so they could all purchase one of my class-defining skills to use for themselves. lame.
Yeah I remember the complaints back in the day. Seeing people ride around on horses was terrible in comparison to the original game. Also game breaking in that it allowed spell casters to med while moving around. You could be kiting and medding at the same time.. anything.. anything to avoid having to sit or have "downtime". DAoC, Shadowbane were out around this time with their high speed play styles. This would become a staple in WoWcraft. The hyperADD was kicking in full force with the new competition on the market. EQ wanted to become everything that everyone else was doing.. all that "innovation" which was stripping out RPG elements for ease and convenience.

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oh my god what the fu
Didn't know anything about that guy until a few years ago. The EQ manual had some lore information but I didn't know he was an alien... well, not really. They come from some land on Norrath but are not space aliens. Its dumb.

I do remember loading up EQ for the first time and creating a character. I clicked each diety I could worship and wondered how this would play out in game. I could worship dragons, I wonder what that would do. The Xfiles was big during the 90s so maybe one of the developers was a fan.. who knows. Its out of place in a high fantasy setting. Perhaps drug induced.. I would lean to this explanation more when you consider Luclin.. surely the team had money by this point and was loaded on some wacky drugs. How else could you explain it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 10-02-2019, 07:34 AM
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Its a reference to panspermia.
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:43 AM
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Throwing my support behind our citrusian sister. The Vale has a rich history of zealous propagation of hobbit creed and warriors whomst choose to openly worship false deities, should not be barred from integrating their faith with the good work they do.

The prohibition on hobbit rangers and paladins is a gross display of religious bigotry and should not be tolerated! Rogean, kindly correct this iniquity.

Many thanks,

a hobbit
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:45 AM
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Throwing my support behind our citrusian sister. The Vale has a rich history of zealous propagation of hobbit creed and warriors whomst choose to openly worship false deities, should not be barred from integrating their faith with the good work they do.

The prohibition on hobbit rangers and paladins is a gross display of religious bigotry and should not be tolerated! Rogean, kindly correct this iniquity.

Many thanks,

a hobbit
HOw much non-classic content are you guys gonna request?
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Old 10-02-2019, 09:46 AM
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Will Rivervale Vanguard be making an appearance on green?
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