Do you want open book/blind meditiation?

[Baler]

They allow shrinking, hugging a wall and summoning an eye to invite from zone in.

am I right. *chuckles*

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They allow shrinking, hugging a wall and summoning an eye to invite from zone in.

am I right. *chuckles*

People ask who cares it's annoying, why make such a big deal?

That's an easy one

It's supposed to be a classic server, why make such a big deal protesting it being so?

Right?

[Nilstoniakrath]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's supposed to be a classic server, why make such a big deal protesting it being so?

Right?

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ultimately for green, if it's classic I want it.
classic mechanics
classic bugs
classic exploits

everything, I'm a no compromise classic supporter for green.

So I take it you two are for rescinding the ban on boxing too, then, since boxing is also "Classic".... no compromises, right?

Oh yeah, I forgot, of course, you also "pick and choose" which parts of classic are real classic, and which parts are for butthurt crybabies, momma's basement dwellers and wannabe losers

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Nilstoniakrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I take it you two are for rescinding the ban on boxing too, then, since boxing is also "Classic".... no compromises, right?

Oh yeah, I forgot, of course, you also "pick and choose" which parts of classic are real classic, and which parts are for butthurt crybabies, momma's basement dwellers and wannabe losers

It's not about pick and choose, it's about viable and not. The P99 folks do everything viable, but classic boxing isn't viable.

In classic you had to pay for two accounts, both for the first box, every expansion, and every month. You also had to have two physical computers: EQW didn't come until later, and even then it was ban-worthy tech for the entire classic era.

P99 can't technically force only one instance to run (even if they did people could run VMs). They also can't charge: that's part of their deal with Daybreak (or at least is presumed to be).

So they have two choices, and both are 100% unclassic: no boxing, or people boxing all over the damn place. Most other EQ Emu servers (all of which have pop <100) go the latter route. P99 went the former, and I think anyone who has played on both will tell you, the P99 choice is by far more classic.

Also .. you're a child. I don't even want to invest effort into insulting you better, because it's not even really an insult: more a statement of fact. Baler and Nirgon may not be the friendliest people in this forum, but that response was childish.

[Nilstoniakrath]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not about pick and choose, it's about viable and not. The P99 folks do everything viable, but classic boxing isn't viable.

In classic you had to pay for two accounts, both for the first box, every expansion, and every month. You also had to have two physical computers: EQW didn't come until later, and even then it was ban-worthy tech for the entire classic era.

P99 can't technically force only one instance to run (even if they did people could run VMs). They also can't charge: that's part of their deal with Daybreak (or at least is presumed to be).

So they have two choices, and both are 100% unclassic: no boxing, or people boxing all over the damn place. Most other EQ Emu servers (all of which have pop <100) go the latter route. P99 went the former, and I think anyone who has played on both will tell you, the P99 choice is by far more classic.

Also .. you're a child. I don't even want to invest effort into insulting you better, because it's not even really an insult: more a statement of fact. Baler and Nirgon may not be the friendliest people in this forum, but that response was childish.

Sorry if I was not clear in my sarcasm. I have no desire for p99 to allow boxing.

[Nilstoniakrath]

Just to be clear, my last response was directed at those who white knight any dissent against any thing "classic". I was offended that a couple of others tried to discredit my argument based on the idea that suggesting ANYTHING non-classic is a heretical idea and those who do so are a) weak and incapable everquest players, and/or b) someone seeking an easy path to leveling. I was making the point that p99 by banning boxing, is inherently NOT adhering 100% to a PURE classic ruleset, whether that is by intention, or code limitations, or whatever other factors impact the devs in how they design p99. By trying to position themselves as "classic purists" those who I called out are in fact hypocrits because they agree with the ban on boxing (or if I am wrong, feel free to argue FOR boxing, LOL), while trying to denigrate me for the sin of advocating for multiple chat windows. And to be clear, again, I support the ban on boxing, and at the end of the day, I will play Green regardless of what they decide to allow re: chat windows, single or multiple.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Nilstoniakrath [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just to be clear, my last response was directed at those who white knight any dissent against any thing "classic". I was offended that a couple of others tried to discredit my argument based on the idea that suggesting ANYTHING non-classic is a heretical idea and those who do so are a) weak and incapable everquest players, and/or b) someone seeking an easy path to leveling. I was making the point that p99 by banning boxing, is inherently NOT adhering 100% to a PURE classic ruleset, whether that is by intention, or code limitations, or whatever other factors impact the devs in how they design p99. By trying to position themselves as "classic purists" those who I called out are in fact hypocrits because they agree with the ban on boxing (or if I am wrong, feel free to argue FOR boxing, LOL), while trying to denigrate me for the sin of advocating for multiple chat windows. And to be clear, again, I support the ban on boxing, and at the end of the day, I will play Green regardless of what they decide to allow re: chat windows, single or multiple.

Did you not read what I wrote? There is no classic boxing possible on P99!

If the devs allow boxing, it won't be classic: there was not limitless free accounts in 1999, and you couldn't control multiple accounts from a computer the way you can now.

If they don't allow boxing, it won't be classic: there was no limit except your pocket book and how many computers you could physically control in classic.

You can't call people hypocrites if they're damned if they do, damned if they don't.