Mages in classic

[Nagoya]

Originally Posted by indiscriminate_hater [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I never understood poop socking. Why not poop tupperwaring? Or poop PVC piping? It just makes more sense

i am pretty sure it is because it wasn't planned.
you don't always have a tupperware handy.
a sock on the other hand...
first time was a happy accident. then it became culture.

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Wenai [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just don't get the draw of a Magician over a Necromancer when people are looking for something "easy" for a farming character purpose. The sheer amount of utility you get out of a Necromancer in comparison is staggering.

Necros are definitely far more versatile and the more powerful class overall. The Mage is more niche. Honestly the main draw of playing a Mage (at least for me) is how lazy the class is. Think of the Mage as the offensive version of the Cleric. If you don't like a busy playstyle but still want to be very useful in a group and a capable soloer/plat farmer, the Mage is the perfect class.

[bwe]

Is a mage or necro better if you can only log on for an hour here and there?

[Aaramis]

Originally Posted by bwe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is a mage or necro better if you can only log on for an hour here and there?

Guess it depends if you want to solo or group in that hour.
Necros are far better at solo or getting to random camps due to invis, ITU and FD.

Mages are good if you logged at the camp or simply want to group/duo for a bit

[Lojik]

Not sure how it will be on green. If pop is really high and there's not many open solo spots it might be easier for mage to get groups. It's definitely easier to pop in and out solo as a nec, considering they have more tools to break camps.

[Whoop]

Bah I was kinda set on rolling a mage or maybe a monk. I need a soloing class and already have a epiced necro on blue. But after this thread I'm starting to get the urge for a second necro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Vyal]

Originally Posted by Deathrydar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am getting that they aren't as powerful after vanilla, but are they still wanted in groups and can they still solo in Kun and Vel?

Mages become even more powerful after Kunark.
However you should understand one thing and that is the odds are very high mages here will end up being castrated at some point much like bards were.
There are many tricks to mages using CoH and if those tricks get used by many mages I would expect them to put time limits on the spell like it can only be used once every 5 minutes or something "for the spirit of the game" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the mage epic pet is an absolute monster imagine Vel ain't coming out for years but you got that epic mage pet. You can pretty much camp GEBs and let the pet solo everything but of course there is probably some weird rule that says it ain't "in the spirit of the game" to do that and therefore you won't be able to camp an item over and over again. There's a bunch of lists and once you get the drop you've got to give up the camp for the next guy on the list or something.

As for OP
Mages are beasts during the start if you know all the right spots to level you'll be able to hit 30 in less then a week and be down to sit on the evil eye spawn.

From maybe 20 - 30 you could sit in Qeynos Hills and kill the Millers and with the lists the way they are just as soon as you go into the zone claim the Pyzjn camp and if the GBS drops well it's all yours. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Then head off to lower guk get your Manastone because LISTS and the rest is incredibly easy you could just kill guards to 50 or so and make tons of plat selling the weapons.
Then you've got your first character done who can do just about anything and is incredibly easy to play and it's time to go make a monk or necro.
Then cleric and then druid.

Don't waste time on a bard that class has been castrated which is probably going to happen to any class that has the ability to level fast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Vyal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mages become even more powerful after Kunark.
However you should understand one thing and that is the odds are very high mages here will end up being castrated at some point much like bards were.
There are many tricks to mages using CoH and if those tricks get used by many mages I would expect them to put time limits on the spell like it can only be used once every 5 minutes or something "for the spirit of the game" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the mage epic pet is an absolute monster imagine Vel ain't coming out for years but you got that epic mage pet. You can pretty much camp GEBs and let the pet solo everything but of course there is probably some weird rule that says it ain't "in the spirit of the game" to do that and therefore you won't be able to camp an item over and over again. There's a bunch of lists and once you get the drop you've got to give up the camp for the next guy on the list or something.

As for OP
Mages are beasts during the start if you know all the right spots to level you'll be able to hit 30 in less then a week and be down to sit on the evil eye spawn.

From maybe 20 - 30 you could sit in Qeynos Hills and kill the Millers and with the lists the way they are just as soon as you go into the zone claim the Pyzjn camp and if the GBS drops well it's all yours. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Then head off to lower guk get your Manastone because LISTS and the rest is incredibly easy you could just kill guards to 50 or so and make tons of plat selling the weapons.
Then you've got your first character done who can do just about anything and is incredibly easy to play and it's time to go make a monk or necro.
Then cleric and then druid.

Don't waste time on a bard that class has been castrated which is probably going to happen to any class that has the ability to level fast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The butthurt in your post is palpable.


AoE's weren't nerfed 'just cause', there was evidence that it was accurate for the era, as you well know from your pages long cryfest of a thread. Speculating that anyone that can solo a valuable camp is getting nerfed is childish and unrealistic.

[Vyal]

Originally Posted by Tethler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The butthurt in your post is palpable.


AoE's weren't nerfed 'just cause', there was evidence that it was accurate for the era, as you well know from your pages long cryfest of a thread. Speculating that anyone that can solo a valuable camp is getting nerfed is childish and unrealistic.

Tch this is what's happening so don't call it unrealistic.

Keep trolling me stupid clown. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[skorge]

Originally Posted by Vyal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Mages become even more powerful after Kunark.
However you should understand one thing and that is the odds are very high mages here will end up being castrated at some point much like bards were.
There are many tricks to mages using CoH and if those tricks get used by many mages I would expect them to put time limits on the spell like it can only be used once every 5 minutes or something "for the spirit of the game" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the mage epic pet is an absolute monster imagine Vel ain't coming out for years but you got that epic mage pet. You can pretty much camp GEBs and let the pet solo everything but of course there is probably some weird rule that says it ain't "in the spirit of the game" to do that and therefore you won't be able to camp an item over and over again. There's a bunch of lists and once you get the drop you've got to give up the camp for the next guy on the list or something.

As for OP
Mages are beasts during the start if you know all the right spots to level you'll be able to hit 30 in less then a week and be down to sit on the evil eye spawn.

From maybe 20 - 30 you could sit in Qeynos Hills and kill the Millers and with the lists the way they are just as soon as you go into the zone claim the Pyzjn camp and if the GBS drops well it's all yours. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Then head off to lower guk get your Manastone because LISTS and the rest is incredibly easy you could just kill guards to 50 or so and make tons of plat selling the weapons.
Then you've got your first character done who can do just about anything and is incredibly easy to play and it's time to go make a monk or necro.
Then cleric and then druid.

Don't waste time on a bard that class has been castrated which is probably going to happen to any class that has the ability to level fast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you really think there will be a list for Pyzjn? Lol, what makes you think that? The list is only for "limited time items." Maybe you should actually read before you make a post so butthurt I can actually taste the tears.