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Old 09-24-2019, 04:45 PM
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If there's interest, this could be re-written to be a part of the wiki itself (vs. being a part of Google Sheets).

Obviously that's non-trivial to do, so while I'd be happy to "convert" it if people think it would be useful for the wiki to have ...otherwise it's just easier to link to the spreadsheet on the wiki instead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Feel free to link it if you think it's worth it, maybe nearby the same spreadsheet that I stole alot of the charts from [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I don't want to encourage people building the "perfect" group because that isn't what EQ is about. If anything hopefully it will do the opposite, I just like numbers.
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Old 09-24-2019, 04:50 PM
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Feel free to link it if you think it's worth it, maybe nearby the same spreadsheet that I stole alot of the charts from [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I don't want to encourage people building the "perfect" group because that isn't what EQ is about. If anything hopefully it will do the opposite, I just like numbers.
Well, anyone can link it (you can, it's a wiki!)

I was just offering to "code it up", as a real form with drop-downs that people could select. I think the UI would be superior to the Google Sheet ... but again I have to write a bunch of code to make it happen, so it's the kind of thing I'm more inclined to do if people here respond "yes I'd love to see a form like that in the wiki".

As for encouraging people to build the "perfect" group ... that argument in general is often made about giving out all sorts of information. Like, if we tell people X, will they do wrong thing Y because they misinterpret X?

My take is that giving people more information, at least in the long run, pretty much always results in things getting better. Yes, maybe some people might use it to min/max, but it could also give people a much better understanding of how XP is distributed ... and once you have that, you realize that it's not the end of the world to let that Troll Shadow Knight join your group ... in fact it's about the same as having a Warrior a few levels higher join.

So ultimately, I think greater knowledge of XP allocation can only be a net good for everyone.
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Old 09-24-2019, 04:54 PM
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Well, anyone can link it (you can, it's a wiki!)

I was just offering to "code it up", as a real form with drop-downs that people could select. I think the UI would be superior to the Google Sheet ... but again I have to write a bunch of code to make it happen, so it's the kind of thing I'm more inclined to do if people here respond "yes I'd love to see a form like that in the wiki".

As for encouraging people to build the "perfect" group ... that argument in general is often made about giving out all sorts of information. Like, if we tell people X, will they do wrong thing Y because they misinterpret X?

My take is that giving people more information, at least in the long run, pretty much always results in things getting better. Yes, maybe some people might use it to min/max, but it could also give people a much better understanding of how XP is distributed ... and once you have that, you realize that it's not the end of the world to let that Troll Shadow Knight join your group ... in fact it's about the same as having a Warrior a few levels higher join.

So ultimately, I think greater knowledge of XP allocation can only be a net good for everyone.
Amen to all of that! Thanks for everything you do with the Wiki. Been using your per level guides both XP and Platinum as long as I have been messing around on and off with p99 since 2015.
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Old 09-25-2019, 02:15 AM
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it's the kind of thing I'm more inclined to do if people here respond "yes I'd love to see a form like that in the wiki".
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