So... How classic do you want it?

[Vart]

Some players seem to want things to be selectively classic based on what class they play, or how much they play, or their preferred UI or ...etc .. etc ..etc

WAY TO MANY negative posts and threads, I don't like this... I don't like that... change this , change that..

Devs , Gms , guides and others have put a lot of work into giving us a place to play old school EQ = Thank You to all of those people who have worked on p99 the past 10 years.

Maybe the best thing to do is make green as close to the 99 release as possible and let the chips fall where they may.

........But For Christ sake to many of the playerbase needs to stop with the whining.

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Halfcell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Staring at your spell book is hella classic, in fact it might be single most recognizable aspect of classic not currently in game. But what worries me is the effect it will have on the least recognizable, but most important aspect of P99 that is classic.

A constant influx of new players.

A legitimate concern. But there's still Blue, right? A new player who stumbles upon P1999 doesn't have to roll on Green for a more authentic experience. He can easily opt for the more modern client on Blue.

At the end of the day, we have to keep in mind that the goal of this project is to recreate the experience of classic EverQuest as closely as possible. And something that a lot of players have forgotten is that most of the modern conveniences we've gotten used to on the Titanium client (gamma for night blindness, target cycling, item linking, third-person mouse wheel scroll, no spellbook medding) have significant impacts on actual gameplay. They are not just quality of life changes. They fundamentally change the way the game is played. And they change it unquestionably in an un-classic direction. This is why I support any change that moves in the direction of classic gameplay.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have found no screenshots with an inventory with velious UI up, only the marble classic one

You won't find them, either. The actual velious UI did not fully replace the original; some original elements like inventory and character select continued in use until the Luclin/Planes of power-style UI (basically what you see as Default_Old in the Titanium install) replaced everything with modern elements. On P99's "velious UI" these windows aren't quite classic and are instead implemented in what might be called "velious-style." I imagine they're implementing the UI in the manner they are due to difficulties with replicating the original aspects. The original character creation screen was pretty neat in a "gets you into the world" sort of way.


Danth

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A legitimate concern.

Maybe, and maybe it's much ado about nothing. Ten years ago when P99beta was leading up to launch I remember many of what were effectively the exact same arguments being made--but in the support of multiboxing. Need it, people won't stand for not having it, taking it away will drive newbies out, etc etc. Obviously history has proven that crowd wrong. Let's run with more-nearly-classic and see what happens.

Danth

[Jibartik]

Danth: Wait I dont follow, are you saying I wont see them because they are rare? or because they did indeed not allow for an inventory popup while they were on screen and it would swap to the marble UI?

[Wurl]

Originally Posted by Vart [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some players seem to want things to be selectively classic based on what class they play, or how much they play, or their preferred UI or ...etc .. etc ..etc

WAY TO MANY negative posts and threads, I don't like this... I don't like that... change this , change that..

Devs , Gms , guides and others have put a lot of work into giving us a place to play old school EQ = Thank You to all of those people who have worked on p99 the past 10 years.

Maybe the best thing to do is make green as close to the 99 release as possible and let the chips fall where they may.

........But For Christ sake to many of the playerbase needs to stop with the whining.

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

At the end of the day, we have to keep in mind that the goal of this project is to recreate the experience of classic EverQuest as closely as possible. And something that a lot of players have forgotten is that most of the modern conveniences we've gotten used to on the Titanium client (gamma for night blindness, target cycling, item linking, third-person mouse wheel scroll, no spellbook medding) have significant impacts on actual gameplay.

Amen brothers, devs/GMs/guides PLEASE throttle our connections to dial-up speeds, and PLEASE lock us to 800x600 full-screen only. It's extremely un-classic to let us use a modern internet connection and 1920x1080 resolutions, and they have significant impacts on our actual gameplay. THANK YOU STAFF!!

[Jibartik]

Ok I just played in 640x480 for like 10 minuets with magnifier making it full screen and that was... not very immersive.

Looks cool on paper tho:

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[Nilstoniakrath]

Originally Posted by Wurl [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Amen brothers, devs/GMs/guides PLEASE throttle our connections to dial-up speeds, and PLEASE lock us to 800x600 full-screen only. It's extremely un-classic to let us use a modern internet connection and 1920x1080 resolutions, and they have significant impacts on our actual gameplay. THANK YOU STAFF!!

Let's replace the current "earthquakes" with actual server shut-downs for 6-18 hours too while we are it. And this would be a huge mistake on many levels, but boxing is actually Classic, and I don't hear any purist white knights on the forums advocating for that

[Zeboim]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe, and maybe it's much ado about nothing. Ten years ago when P99beta was leading up to launch I remember many of what were effectively the exact same arguments being made--but in the support of multiboxing. Need it, people won't stand for not having it, taking it away will drive newbies out, etc etc. Obviously history has proven that crowd wrong. Let's run with more-nearly-classic and see what happens.

Danth

Problem with this argument is that most newbies dont multibox or aoe group.

Most of them dont know the ban exists or just accept it as something forbidden as part of the rules.

But everyone meds, barring a few melee classes. It's definitely much more of a concern.

[AbstractVision]

As Rogean has stated many many times, non classic changes will be made in the spirit of classic experience AND for the good of the server.

Examples: 25 mob aoe limit, no boxing, no showeq, no trade window glitches, ect

Some classic things shouldn't exist.