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Old 05-13-2011, 08:09 PM
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Doesn't matter when you started or how long you played, manastones dropped for a bit, then stopped dropping. Doesn't matter when you started playing or for how long, Fungi Robes had +15 regen for a couple months after Kunark release and then it was removed.
Yes, and trying to re-live all of those bad occurrences in time would be like a government telling their denizens that they were going to "return the country to its former glory" by implementing all of the laws the country had during a past point in time when the economy was better. Sorry everyone, but SLAVERY is back! Just deal with it! That's how it used to be and that's how we are going to do it again!

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The error in your logic is you don't get to define what is a "problem", the developers do.
Luckily, the developers are humans. They are not gravity or the rotational spin of the Earth. They can be influenced. Thus, I am trying to engage in intellectual discourse with other human beings who have the capacity to do so.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:16 PM
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Yes, and trying to re-live all of those bad occurrences in time would be like a government telling their denizens that they were going to "return the country to its former glory" by implementing all of the laws the country had during a past point in time when the economy was better. Sorry everyone, but SLAVERY is back! Just deal with it! That's how it used to be and that's how we are going to do it again!
This is dumb. If you think classic is slavery, then don't play. No one can make you a slave to the server.


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Luckily, the developers are humans. They are not gravity or the rotational spin of the Earth. They can be influenced. Thus, I am trying to engage in intellectual discourse with other human beings who have the capacity to do so.
You're wasting your breathe. They don't care what you or I or whoever thinks would be a better experience than classic. At all. Not a tiny bit. They have their goal of following the day 1 through Velious original timeline, and anything you suggest past that is as productive as dreaming about winning the lottery.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:27 PM
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Whether or not giving hybrids more powerful spells would make the game "better" is completely meaningless.

The purpose of this server is to recreate the original Everquest timeline as faithfully as possible, a fact which Zuranthium is ignoring because he would prefer it if the developers changed p1999 into his idea of a perfect EQ.

Some of his suggestions probably would make the game "better," but it just doesn't matter. That is not what Project 1999 is about.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:28 PM
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You're wasting your breathe.
Only on you, and anyone else who can't comprehend mathematical and/or judicious and/or creative thought.

You are not the overlord of the developers' minds. Don't presume to tell me what they will do. They will do what they damn well please and their course of action will likely be influenced by the community, even if only minutely. I'm free to share my thoughts and if you don't like it then either stop responding to my posts with your useless blabber or start responding with reasoning as to why you believe my ideas for the game are good or bad (for after "the timeline" has expired, since you can't come to terms with the possibility of anything being altered in such a way as to not take "the timeline" as the Word of God).
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:33 PM
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Only on you, and anyone else who can't comprehend mathematical and/or judicious and/or creative thought.

You are not the overlord of the developers' minds. Don't presume to tell me what they will do. They will do what they damn well please and their course of action will likely be influenced by the community, even if only minutely. I'm free to share my thoughts and if you don't like it then either stop responding to my posts with your useless blabber or start responding with reasoning as to why you believe my ideas for the game are good or bad (for after "the timeline" has expired, since you can't come to terms with the possibility of anything being altered in such a way as to not take "the timeline" as the Word of God).
Still, missing, the point.

It has nothing to do with what is a good or bad idea. If you came up with some idea that 100% of the players thought was perfect, garnering an unprecedented unanimous approval from the thousands of players, it wouldn't matter. Good idea or bad idea is irrelevant.

What you're doing is akin to going into someone's house and telling them what you think would be good ways to redecorate, then when it's pointed out to you that they had a specific goal in mind for the decorating, you still carry on demanding an explanation as to why your ideas are bad ideas. It doesn't matter if your ideas are bad ideas, good ideas, or wonderful ideas. They have a goal, and anything not conducive to that goal is counterproductive.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:35 PM
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Still, missing, the point.

It has nothing to do with what is a good or bad idea. If you came up with some idea that 100% of the players thought was perfect, garnering an unprecedented unanimous approval from the thousands of players, it wouldn't matter. Good idea or bad idea is irrelevant.

What you're doing is akin to going into someone's house and telling them what you think would be good ways to redecorate, then when it's pointed out to you that they had a specific goal in mind for the decorating, you still carry on demanding an explanation as to why your ideas are bad ideas. It doesn't matter if your ideas are bad ideas, good ideas, or wonderful ideas. They have a goal, and anything not conducive to that goal is counterproductive.
That is exactly what is trying to be created here that eq1 lost. A "community" and with a community come the voices of the community. Like it or not. You can't say they are irrelevant. You can disagree with their viewpoint and offer counterpoints. But they aren't irrelevant.
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Old 05-13-2011, 08:39 PM
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That is exactly what is trying to be created here that eq1 lost. A "community" and with a community come the voices of the community. Like it or not. You can't say they are irrelevant. You can disagree with their viewpoint and offer counterpoints. But they aren't irrelevant.
You're confused. The voices of the community ARE irrelevant, because the dev's have their goal that has absolutely nothing to do with you, or me, or everyone else and what we want. It's replicating the original timeline. It doesn't matter if 100% of the population wants to see beastmasters or w/e added during Kunark, it wont happen. Doesn't matter if 100% of the population wants to see some class revamp, it wont happen.

Once you figure in that no matter what you WONT get 100% approval on an idea, it's even more obvious that these custom ideas have no place here anytime soon.
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:02 PM
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You're confused. The voices of the community ARE irrelevant, because the dev's have their goal that has absolutely nothing to do with you, or me, or everyone else and what we want. It's replicating the original timeline. It doesn't matter if 100% of the population wants to see beastmasters or w/e added during Kunark, it wont happen. Doesn't matter if 100% of the population wants to see some class revamp, it wont happen.

Once you figure in that no matter what you WONT get 100% approval on an idea, it's even more obvious that these custom ideas have no place here anytime soon.
Your the one that is confused and irrelevant! As you have no understanding of holding a discussion on a topic. Just your narrow minded view you wish to impose. And that is rejected entirely.

Oh and I'm not defending weather this topic or ideas is right or wrong. Just his right to put forth his opinion and discuss his ideas. We don't live in a communist country where we cannot discuss our ideas openly.
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