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Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. And the meaning of what is "classic" differs with each person's point of view and experience.

The classic timeline doesn't change based on point of view or experience. Doesn't matter when you started or how long you played, manastones dropped for a bit, then stopped dropping. Doesn't matter when you started playing or for how long, Kunark came after original EQ, and Velious came after Kunark. Doesn't matter when you started playing or for how long, Fungi Robes had +15 regen for a couple months after Kunark release and then it was removed. etc.

[Shadey]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The classic timeline doesn't change based on point of view or experience. Doesn't matter when you started or how long you played, manastones dropped for a bit, then stopped dropping. Doesn't matter when you started playing or for how long, Kunark came after original EQ, and Velious came after Kunark. Doesn't matter when you started playing or for how long, Fungi Robes had +15 regen for a couple months after Kunark release and then it was removed. etc.

Yup and Luclin came after Velious and so on and so on. Is there a point there? And each person has their own vision of what a classic timeline is. Mine includes luclin which was the last great something for all player types expac. Without all the instancing junk and massively increased exp and easy rewards.

So see there is a different point of view on what is classic. And my timeline differs from yours. Is yours right or is mine right? Well each is right for each of us as each have the own OPINION!

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Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yup and Luclin came after Velious and so on and so on. Is there a point there? And each person has their own vision of what a classic timeline is. Mine includes luclin which was the last great something for all player types expac.

So see there is a different point of view on what is classic. And my timeline differs from yours. Is yours right or is mine right? Well each is right for each of us as each have the own OPINION!

The correct timeline is day 1 EQ through Velious, as said by the developers who do all the coding for the server and pay the bills. It's not a matter of opinion here, it's a matter of what the people running the show say is their goal. The classic timeline through Velious is their goal at the moment. Whatever your (or my) opinion is on what constitutes classic is beyond irrelevant.

[Shadey]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The correct timeline is day 1 EQ through Velious, as said by the developers who do all the coding for the server and pay the bills. It's not a matter of opinion here, it's a matter of what the people running the show say is their goal. The classic timeline through Velious is their goal at the moment. Whatever your (or my) opinion is on what constitutes classic is beyond irrelevant.

The correct classic eq timeline for me is Day 1 through Luclin. If it doesn't happen here thats ok. I still love the server. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But thats my opinion. And everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter what you say or feel.

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Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The correct classic eq timeline for me is Day 1 through Luclin. If it doesn't happen here thats ok. I still love the server. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] But thats my opinion. And everyone is entitled to their opinion no matter what you say or feel.

You can have an opinion on what you do or don't like, sure, but it's irrelevant in the context of the server, since the servers goal is to follow the EQ day 1 through Velious timeline. It doesn't matter if suchandsuch class is too weak, or if suchandsuch zone sucks and isn't worth it, or whatever. What is classic in the context of the server is not a matter of opinion.

[Shadey]

Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You can have an opinion on what you do or don't like, sure, but it's irrelevant in the context of the server, since the servers goal is to follow the EQ day 1 through Velious timeline. It doesn't matter if suchandsuch class is too weak, or if suchandsuch zone sucks and isn't worth it, or whatever. What is classic in the context of the server is not a matter of opinion.

You never know what will happen when all of velious is implemented. Just like SOE kept saying this is the last expac for over 5 expansions and have done so in both eq1 and eq2. LMAO.

And one last question. How do you think this server came to be? It was probably from a discussion the developers had and they each gave their "opinion" on what they would like to do and they constructed an outline of how they will do it from that discussion. Hmmmm Makes ya think eh? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You never know what will happen when all of velious is implemented. Just like SOE kept saying this is the last expac for over 5 expansions and have done so in both eq1 and eq2. LMAO.

And one last question. How do you think this server came to be? It was probably from a discussion the developers had and they each gave their "opinion" on what they would like to do and they constructed an outline of how they will do it from that discussion. Hmmmm Makes ya think eh? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...no one ever claimed to know what would happen when Velious is fully implemented. What is known is that the goal is following the original timeline as closely as possible up through Velious. Do anything custom at this point is 100% counterproductive to their goal.

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Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And each person has their own vision of what a classic timeline is.

Nope, the timeline of EQ is very well defined. The only specifics of this server is that the developpers decided they would stop at Velious, no Luclin, PoP or whatever came after. What will happen once Velious has been released and explored is anyone's guess but the dev will probably not consider or think about this for the time being as they have to get Velious out first which will probably take them a year or two.

Remember they are real persons with real lifes, families, a job etc, not professional dev for whom developping EQ is a job that earns them a living. The time they can dedicate to the server is invested into making sure it works as intended a developping what is their vision of the server. They probably won't have any time to think about what could keep them busy in a few years time.

[Shadey]

Originally Posted by Nagash [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nope, the timeline of EQ is very well defined. The only specifics of this server is that the developpers decided they would stop at Velious, no Luclin, PoP or whatever came after. What will happen once Velious has been released and explored is anyone's guess but the dev will probably not consider or think about this for the time being as they have to get Velious out first which will probably take them a year or two.

Remember they are real persons with real lifes, families, a job etc, not professional dev for whom developping EQ is a job that earns them a living. The time they can dedicate to the server is invested into making sure it works as intended a developping what is their vision of the server. They probably won't have any time to think about what could keep them busy in a few years time.

Well I beg to differ with you sir. You are WRONG! What I consider as classic is different then you. And if you don't like it who cares. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] And if what I consider as classic does not come here that is ok with me. But it doesn't change what I think and feel and no jerk will persuade me into thinking it their way. And it will not stop me for giving my opinion or sticking up for those that are flamed and trampled over when they give theirs.

As far as the devs are concerned I think they do a wonderful job and am thankful for what they do. Its people like you who cant can't stand others having a different view then them that I have the problem with.

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Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I beg to differ with you sir. You are WRONG! What I consider as classic is different then you. And if you don't like it who cares. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] And if what I consider as classic does not come here that is ok with me. But it doesn't change what I think and feel and no jerk will persuade me into thinking it their way.

At which point in my post did I try to define "Classic"? I just said the timeline of EQ is very well defined, which it is, this is just a fact. Now if you want to call "a jerk" someone who is merely stating a fact without even paying attention to what they say, be my guess but expect to loose some credibility in the process.

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And it will not stop me for giving my opinion or sticking up for those that are flamed and trampled over when they give theirs.

Well, people are allowed to say whatever they want but this guys has barely ever posted on the forum before and starts by posting something that is pretty much the anti-thesis of the concept of the server. He has to expect being flamed over and over. I pull my hat off to his thick skin though.

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As far as the devs are concerned I think they do a wonderful job and am thankful for what they do.

Guess this is the only point where everyone agrees [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Shadey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its people like you who cant can't stand others having a different view then them that I have the problem with.

You will stop having problems with people when you start listening to them (cf. my first point). I did read what Zuranthium say (even the wall of text he linked) and strongly disagree.
The only point I agree with him is that we can not re-live the immersion we once lived but I fail to see what bringing some heavy change such as making charm a permanent effect has to do with it. Even if it is just charm animal, this is a very heavy change that is game changing. Zuranthium point is that it won't matter at high level (disagree again but hey, let's assume that's right); what about the population who is in no rush to level and stays in their 20-40 for a very ling time? For them, this change alters their experience deeply.
Up to now, with the exception I've just mentionned about the immersion, everything I read from Zuranthium appears to me as an idea he has had and quickly came to post without giving it a second thought to see if it was valid or understand the impact it would have. Coming from someone who barely ever posted before, people will consider him like a troll and treat him as such.