RIP ToV on Red99

[heartbrand]

I don't mean this as a troll; I mean what I'm about to say sincerely. I don't fundamentally understand the enjoyment or what it is that drives a person to continue to play stagnant content that will literally never be updated [beyond minimal patches for what's left for pre-luclin] for years on end. In other games like WoW when the raid tier is beaten and on farm status the guild typically takes a break until the next tier; they don't raid it for 4 years. Checking the forums I get; it's no worse than those of us who enjoy watching some reality TV on E! for a quick laugh, but for those sitting in ToV for hours on end I legit don't get it. Someone help explain.

[El Camacho]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't mean this as a troll; I mean what I'm about to say sincerely. I don't fundamentally understand the enjoyment or what it is that drives a person to continue to play stagnant content that will literally never be updated [beyond minimal patches for what's left for pre-luclin] for years on end. In other games like WoW when the raid tier is beaten and on farm status the guild typically takes a break until the next tier; they don't raid it for 4 years. Checking the forums I get; it's no worse than those of us who enjoy watching some reality TV on E! for a quick laugh, but for those sitting in ToV for hours on end I legit don't get it. Someone help explain.

Great question and much respect.


The best way I can answer is this: Some people collect stamps.

Same principle. I couldn't do it. Guessing you are not a life long stamp collector either. Yet some people love the shit out of collecting stamps and do it their whole lives. Even though the list of stamps worth collecting will never grow or change.

*Most* of the counter argument seems to be that someone used to love collecting stamps, but doesn't anymore and anyone that still does is somehow broken.

Ironically if all the stamps were taken away from everyone, they would love collecting them all over again.


All things considered... 20 year old elf sim and we are questioning how long is too long.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by El Camacho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great question and much respect.


The best way I can answer is this: Some people collect stamps.

Same principle. I couldn't do it. Guessing you are not a life long stamp collector either. Yet some people love the shit out of collecting stamps and do it their whole lives. Even though the list of stamps worth collecting will never grow or change.

*Most* of the counter argument seems to be that someone used to love collecting stamps, but doesn't anymore and anyone that still does is somehow broken.

Ironically if all the stamps were taken away from everyone, they would love collecting them all over again.


All things considered... 20 year old elf sim and we are questioning how long is too long.

I appreciate the response, but I don't think it's a great comparison.

I enjoy replaying some old classic video games from time to time, as I'm sure many of us do; or re-watching a television series I enjoyed, or a movie, going on an amusement park ride I've been on before, eating a favorite dish at a local restaurant, etc., etc. Part of life is some sort of repetitiveness, re-enjoying things we experienced in the past, etc., and I think everyone agrees that's perfectly normal.

On the other hand, outside of perhaps a psychological disorder book, and P99 [particularly R99], I don't know anyone who watches the same hours long movie multiple times a week every week for years, or who replays Super Mario World from start to finish 3x a week every week for 6+ years, goes on the same amusement park ride every single week multiple times, etc.

Wasn't really meant as an attack on people who do enjoy doing it, but I question whether people really actually enjoy it or of this is just there sense of purpose and/or community; with the game being something that enables the former.

[El Camacho]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I appreciate the response, but I don't think it's a great comparison.

I enjoy replaying some old classic video games from time to time, as I'm sure many of us do; or re-watching a television series I enjoyed, or a movie, going on an amusement park ride I've been on before, eating a favorite dish at a local restaurant, etc., etc. Part of life is some sort of repetitiveness, re-enjoying things we experienced in the past, etc., and I think everyone agrees that's perfectly normal.

On the other hand, outside of perhaps a psychological disorder book, and P99 [particularly R99], I don't know anyone who watches the same hours long movie multiple times a week every week for years, or who replays Super Mario World from start to finish 3x a week every week for 6+ years, goes on the same amusement park ride every single week multiple times, etc.

Wasn't really meant as an attack on people who do enjoy doing it, but I question whether people really actually enjoy it or of this is just there sense of purpose and/or community; with the game being something that enables the former.

Admittedly it isn't a good comparison. It is however a great response someone gave me in a similar discussion when I asked a similar question. The point being that people enjoy things differently and doing so doesn't make them psychotic.

That doesn't mean I think all of your points are incorrect. I agree with the spirit of most of it. Just think that is misses the mark by suggesting that everyone beyond a certain point is psychotic for still playing a game (book, movie, whatever).

I completely agree that:
There are some very warped people on this server.
There are people that play ungodly amounts of time here.
Some of them are the same.

I'm not defending the ToV crowd. Don't really know them to be honest. I've spent less than a few hours in ToV since the 90's

[Vamael]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I appreciate the response, but I don't think it's a great comparison.

I enjoy replaying some old classic video games from time to time, as I'm sure many of us do; or re-watching a television series I enjoyed, or a movie, going on an amusement park ride I've been on before, eating a favorite dish at a local restaurant, etc., etc. Part of life is some sort of repetitiveness, re-enjoying things we experienced in the past, etc., and I think everyone agrees that's perfectly normal.

On the other hand, outside of perhaps a psychological disorder book, and P99 [particularly R99], I don't know anyone who watches the same hours long movie multiple times a week every week for years, or who replays Super Mario World from start to finish 3x a week every week for 6+ years, goes on the same amusement park ride every single week multiple times, etc.

Wasn't really meant as an attack on people who do enjoy doing it, but I question whether people really actually enjoy it or of this is just there sense of purpose and/or community; with the game being something that enables the former.

I legit Play super mario world and legend of zelda oot every single year. The only thing that stops me from logging into red is the population. I could sit and play the same content years on end because i enjoyed it. I do not enjoy lack of population. Population = motivation to log in and pvp.

[Tassador]

I prefer link to the past and chrono trigger.

[White_knight]

Originally Posted by El Camacho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Great question and much respect.


The best way I can answer is this: Some people collect stamps.

Same principle. I couldn't do it. Guessing you are not a life long stamp collector either. Yet some people love the shit out of collecting stamps and do it their whole lives. Even though the list of stamps worth collecting will never grow or change.

*Most* of the counter argument seems to be that someone used to love collecting stamps, but doesn't anymore and anyone that still does is somehow broken.

Ironically if all the stamps were taken away from everyone, they would love collecting them all over again.


All things considered... 20 year old elf sim and we are questioning how long is too long.

I get your point, but, eq is pixels, stamps are a reality, and tangible.

most of us played for nostalgic reasons; and pixel lust for pixels we never attained on live (most of us), then when we got them we moved on.

it's akin to licking an ice block, you lick it till you down to the paddle, then you stop and throw it away.

some of these suckers are chewing the paddle to try extract out any residue, and for that they kindof put themselves out there

[ducktv]

I love getting high as fuck in the bathroom on some angel dust and crying until I throw up