Trump Keeps Winning

[Lune]

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Defend this retardation.

"We have a healthcare plan, but you need to elect us before we tell you what it is. Also, when we controlled the house, the senate, and the presidency, we did NOTHING on healthcare except try to sneak in a tax cut for the wealthy and repeal near-universally supported provisions on the extent to which insurance companies can abuse you".

Nobody likes their private health insurance except those who are too ignorant to know how badly they are being assfucked. That's why there is so much fervor surrounding healthcare in this country, even among the middle and upper middle class.

Want to fix healthcare and keep it """"free market"""" (insurance company rape-fest)? Make it so when an insurance company sells a plan, it must publish the outcomes of people who are enrolled in that plan, including mortality, total amount paid by enrollees (all copays, balance bills, etc on average per year), % denied claims, cancer survival rates, functional mobility outcome measures 3 months following hospital discharge, etc). Insurance companies have all this information available because that is how they calculate their premiums and disbursements. This would actually motivate insurance companies to seek the best outcomes for their members rather than pursue a strategy of systematic claims denial and cost-cutting. If the 'invisible hand' actually worked and consumers were rational actors they would already be demanding this information from insurance companies. Alas, libertarians are gullible retards and hybridized free market healthcare is a scam that nobody likes.

Imagine if insurance company competition was "people in our plan with your level of health live 3 years longer on average" instead of "Our plan is only $3459 a year but when you're unconscious in the hospital we're going to deny every one of your claims and force your oncologist to file a mountain of paperwork to pre-authorize mundane diagnostic procedures if he wants to be reimbursed"

Additionally, people would be able to compare the outcomes of their own plan with medicare and, better yet, socialized coverage in other countries and directly see just how shitty their care is under American private insurance.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Defend this retardation.

"We have a healthcare plan, but you need to elect us before we tell you what it is. Also, when we controlled the house, the senate, and the presidency, we did NOTHING on healthcare except try to sneak in a tax cut for the wealthy and repeal near-universally supported provisions on the extent to which insurance companies can abuse you".

Nobody likes their private health insurance except those who are too ignorant to know how badly they are being assfucked. That's why there is so much fervor surrounding healthcare in this country, even among the middle and upper middle class.

Want to fix healthcare and keep it """"free market"""" (insurance company rape-fest)? Make it so when an insurance company sells a plan, it must publish the outcomes of people who are enrolled in that plan, including mortality, total amount paid by enrollees (all copays, balance bills, etc on average per year), % denied claims, cancer survival rates, functional mobility outcome measures 3 months following hospital discharge, etc). Insurance companies have all this information available because that is how they calculate their premiums and disbursements. This would actually motivate insurance companies to seek the best outcomes for their members rather than pursue a strategy of systematic claims denial and cost-cutting. If the 'invisible hand' actually worked and consumers were rational actors they would already be demanding this information from insurance companies. Alas, libertarians are gullible retards and hybridized free market healthcare is a scam that nobody likes.

Imagine if insurance company competition was "people in our plan with your level of health live 3 years longer on average" instead of "Our plan is only $3459 a year but when you're unconscious in the hospital we're going to deny every one of your claims and force your oncologist to file a mountain of paperwork to pre-authorize mundane diagnostic procedures if he wants to be reimbursed"

Additionally, people would be able to compare the outcomes of their own plan with medicare and, better yet, socialized coverage in other countries and directly see just how shitty their care is under American private insurance.

This. And until then, as a motivator, put all political representatives on the same plan as the average American.

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by Ennewi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This. And until then, as a motivator, put all political representatives on the same plan as the average American.

AND scale their Obamacare Bronze to cost them the same price that it would if they were an employee in the private sector being forced to pay more in scale with their salary without government subsidy, because a large majority of employers aren't even matching 50% of the premium anymore and are offering zero% coverage for family coverage!

[clevergirl]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Defend this retardation.

"We have a healthcare plan, but you need to elect us before we tell you what it is. Also, when we controlled the house, the senate, and the presidency, we did NOTHING on healthcare except try to sneak in a tax cut for the wealthy and repeal near-universally supported provisions on the extent to which insurance companies can abuse you".

Nobody likes their private health insurance except those who are too ignorant to know how badly they are being assfucked. That's why there is so much fervor surrounding healthcare in this country, even among the middle and upper middle class.

Want to fix healthcare and keep it """"free market"""" (insurance company rape-fest)? Make it so when an insurance company sells a plan, it must publish the outcomes of people who are enrolled in that plan, including mortality, total amount paid by enrollees (all copays, balance bills, etc on average per year), % denied claims, cancer survival rates, functional mobility outcome measures 3 months following hospital discharge, etc). Insurance companies have all this information available because that is how they calculate their premiums and disbursements. This would actually motivate insurance companies to seek the best outcomes for their members rather than pursue a strategy of systematic claims denial and cost-cutting. If the 'invisible hand' actually worked and consumers were rational actors they would already be demanding this information from insurance companies. Alas, libertarians are gullible retards and hybridized free market healthcare is a scam that nobody likes.

Imagine if insurance company competition was "people in our plan with your level of health live 3 years longer on average" instead of "Our plan is only $3459 a year but when you're unconscious in the hospital we're going to deny every one of your claims and force your oncologist to file a mountain of paperwork to pre-authorize mundane diagnostic procedures if he wants to be reimbursed"

Additionally, people would be able to compare the outcomes of their own plan with medicare and, better yet, socialized coverage in other countries and directly see just how shitty their care is under American private insurance.

And please charge those responsible for manslaughter. And try them in the states. Not the fed. Alex Azar, Rick Scott, others should be criminally liable for medical fraud and the suffering they've caused because of their greed.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Defend this retardation.

I think you have to look at Trump a little differently. Most politicians are the mouthpieces of the Deep State and thus do nothing but parrot whatever our Banker Overlords have in mind for us, usually some sort of virtue signaling that will feel good (to liberals) in the short term but destroy Western Civilization in the long run. Everything they say is completely transparent. Trump on the other hand does not always telegraph his intentions so blatantly. This makes him quite a bit more interesting.

Originally Posted by AenorVZ

Trump is either under sealed indictment or he's not

This is an excellent example of the kind of brainwashing that Trump must overcome. We know Mueller's report explicitly declares that Trump is innocent of Russian collusion (let's ignore for now the asinine view that because the Russians bought a few Facebook ads we need to have new elections. Every intelligence agency is doing this all the time). If Mueller is the patriot you think he is, and Barr is misreading his report, don't you think he'd be saying so publicly on Maddow?

But it's hard for people to give up deeply held beliefs. Do you think it's easy for guys like Aenor to realize that he has sided with pedophiles and satanists against freedom and decency? So, Trump is continuing with his usual 'drip drip drip' strategy. First we have the Mueller report one-liner. Then we have Barr's summary. Soon we will have Barr's redacted version of the report. Then we will get the full report. Then we will get the declassified FISA docs. In every case the liberal media will try to push the Russian collusion narrative only to be destroyed by facts.

Returning to the original point, I believe that Trump is going to try to put Crooked Hillary and Creepy Joe and the rest of these Deep State clowns in jail. When that happens, the Deep State will use their nuclear option with astroturfed riots, a stock market crash, and God knows what else. To make it through without a civil war, Trump needs broad support from the country. More than 50%. At least 60-70%. So on the one hand he is nuking the Russian collusion idiocy, and on the other he is throwing some r-selected bones about free stuff to try and get a few of the more moderate liberals on his side.

Will it work? I don't know. It's not clear to me that America can come back from the immense damage that has been done over the past 116 years. When I walk through the supermarket at times I feel like I am already in Brazil (not that I don't like Brazil, but I don't want the same for the US). But at least it will be interesting!

P.S. Tesla numbers soon! Elon's charlatanry is the greatest show on the planet.

[Raev]

http://www.unz.com/runz/american-pra...-of-the-1940s/

Great read. The same people have been running the world for their benefit for hundreds of years.

(double ragepost etc)

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But it's hard for people to give up deeply held beliefs. Do you think it's easy for guys like Aenor to realize that he has sided with pedophiles and satanists against freedom and decency? So, Trump is continuing with his usual 'drip drip drip' strategy. First we have the Mueller report one-liner. Then we have Barr's summary. Soon we will have Barr's redacted version of the report. Then we will get the full report. Then we will get the declassified FISA docs. In every case the liberal media will try to push the Russian collusion narrative only to be destroyed by facts.

Trump continues to play the Democrats like a fiddle. They are trying to hold Bill Bar in contempt of Congress for following the law! Eventually Trump will 'give in' and, to the surprise of no one but CNN drones, it will not contain any evidence of collusion or obstruction of justice. But it will contain Mueller's investigation into the Deep State! After all, Hillary did collude with Russia.

It's all happening fast now. I'm guessing that within 2-3 more months it will all be out in the open, and it will be clear that the Democratic party (as well as pre-Trump republicans), media, intelligence agencies, were all part all part of a gigantic conspiracy to destroy America and install a neofeudal debt-based slave state. Most of their members were easily blackmailable satanists and pedophiles. And of course Wonkie and Feniin.

P.S. TSLA down 15% since my update (85% more to go). I own a few puts on the S&P right now as I predict that this conspiracy will do anything they can to shake things up before these events. I'm guessing that will involve crashing the stock market, and they can start with not giving Trump a China trade deal. But we shall see.

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trump continues to play the Democrats like a fiddle. They are trying to hold Bill Bar in contempt of Congress for following the law! Eventually Trump will 'give in' and, to the surprise of no one but CNN drones, it will not contain any evidence of collusion or obstruction of justice. But it will contain Mueller's investigation into the Deep State! After all, Hillary did collude with Russia.

It's all happening fast now. I'm guessing that within 2-3 more months it will all be out in the open, and it will be clear that the Democratic party (as well as pre-Trump republicans), media, intelligence agencies, were all part all part of a gigantic conspiracy to destroy America and install a neofeudal debt-based slave state. Most of their members were easily blackmailable satanists and pedophiles. And of course Wonkie and Feniin.

P.S. TSLA down 15% since my update (85% more to go). I own a few puts on the S&P right now as I predict that this conspiracy will do anything they can to shake things up before these events. I'm guessing that will involve crashing the stock market, and they can start with not giving Trump a China trade deal. But we shall see.

Rumor on the dark web is that hard-leftists are going to attempt to market manipulate a major downturn in September.

[feniin]

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Rumor on the dark web is that hard-leftists are going to attempt to market manipulate a major downturn in September.

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[Thorondor]

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I've seen it on the hacker boards fucktard.

Not that you would know anything about that considering you're a fucking clueless dolt.