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[Kayso2]

Originally Posted by Maschenny [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Loramin, what is preventing smaller guilds from taking a shot at ToV? I don't understand.

I'll answer this one since the person you're asking the question of has no idea.

Nothing is preventing them from taking a shot. Your huge roster and AMs huge roster are just preventing them from having any realistic chance of sustained success.

The real question is, why would smaller guilds bother? Especially when they're competitive on other encounters where a huge force is not such a decisive advantage.

And before anyone gets all faux-fended and starts chirping, I'm not denying that both AG and AM have some of the best players on the box. They absolutely do. That's not what this is about.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by bthomsen0312 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If I'm AM and I'm locked out of TOV for 4 weeks how do you think those smaller guilds like BG and PS are going to fair when AM is sitting around waiting for their "rotation". They won't have anything else to do other than kill smaller targets and they have the resources and toons to be parked everywhere if they don't need to worry about a vulak pop.

I thought they were going to be joining other guilds so the can kill in ToV with their alts? Which is it?!? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On the contrary there has been a mix of dishonest and honest arguments made in this thread (as is common for RnF). I'm going to keep calling out the dishonest ones as dishonest, and trying to engage with the honest ones, and I'll take my rustling of people like you as a sign I'm on the right track.

Yep completely leap over my point and go back onto your crusade. You’re a fucking moron.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by bthomsen0312 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There was not a single guild on live that was rotating current content.

zero
zilch
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P99 guilds also allow "bottom tier" classes to attend raids in large numbers which wouldn't have happened on live. If you were in a top end guild you were useful or you were cut.

Currently on "repop day" there are 3 guilds (and maybe more) that are going to be for sure functionally locked in and getting loot in TOV

Core
AM
AG

These guys COMPETE against each other which allows smaller guilds like PS and BG etc to steal some smaller fries (see CS dragon)

If I'm AM and I'm locked out of TOV for 4 weeks how do you think those smaller guilds like BG and PS are going to fair when AM is sitting around waiting for their "rotation". They won't have anything else to do other than kill smaller targets and they have the resources and toons to be parked everywhere if they don't need to worry about a vulak pop.

Please keep track of the 7 day mobs won by guilds other than those 3 this week and let me know how different it will be.

[loramin]

Well, I'm getting pooped from all the trolling, so to save my sanity I'm only going to engage with people making honest arguments. If you want a response from me, please use the following rubric somewhere in your post:

I believe _____ is the best raid system overall for everyone on Project 1999 because _______

If you just want to troll, troll away, but I'm not responding.

[bthomsen0312]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought they were going to be joining other guilds so the can kill in ToV with their alts? Which is it?!? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's hilarious that you continue to ask people why, and when they give a very thorough explanation as to why you continue to dodge the answer with false arguments from people who didn't even make them. Not once did I talk about alts. The simple fact of the matter is rotating the top end content will either

A. starve bigger guilds of loot ending up with 900 guilds
or
B. cause said bigger guilds to go after EVERY middle tier target that isn't in TOV resulting in guys like BG and PS to never get much of anything done.

It's a bad idea and there's a reason why this server and not any one of the instanced or rotated servers are as popular as this one is. Exclusivity, whether you like to admit it or not, is a driving human factor here.


It boils down to it sucks to suck Loramin and hopefully the tendies don't get cold while you forum warrior

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

WHY?

Please, stop just saying things as if they're self-evidently true: make an honest argument. I keep trying to help you:



You can't leave the because part off (well, I mean, you can, but then you're not making an argument, you're just yelling things into space).

It shouldnt be rotated because it is the best shit available to kill on p99 for the rest of its days. This is high quality, rare stuff that is as good as its gunna be. So the classic experience would be that the best loot in the game is highly sought after. It was not designed to be easy to get.

But you still have to kill the dragons , that's hard right ?
Well no, this content was defeated instantly when it came out (on p99) . So when the dragon is a glorified pinata, the guild vs guild competition is what makes the loot valuable. There is a challenge associated with it. Rotations remove the challenge and just leave you with the (what I think many would consider) tedious part of raiding is.

Its kindof hard to respond to this thread because I really dont think the topic is deep enough to warrant a huge discussion but I'm trying my best to give you an "honest" arguement.

[jpetrick]

Loramin lacks the critical thinking skills to process anything other than his warped reality.

[enjchanter]

Originally Posted by bthomsen0312 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Exclusivity, whether you like to admit it or not, is a driving human factor here.

That's it
That's literally all it is

If someone isnt excluded then the thing isnt worth anything

[Wonkie]

I believe gold-dkp runs is the best raid system overall for everyone on Project 1999 because I have a lot of gold