Drusella Player Agreement?

[orangemang]

In general, a player should maintain a presence at or very near the spawn of the camp they are intending to hold, while keeping the placeholders of any relevant spawns dead.

Camp hadn't fully respawned mobs, BG still had a presence.

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by orangemang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In general, a player should maintain a presence at or very near the spawn of the camp they are intending to hold, while keeping the placeholders of any relevant spawns dead.

Camp hadn't fully respawned mobs, BG still had a presence.

Unbiased interpretation of the event and rules. Coming at you from BG!!

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BTW haven't seen you at all in ToV, or anywhere really, guess that more and more comment was a little too soon.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by orangemang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In general, a player should maintain a presence at or very near the spawn of the camp they are intending to hold, while keeping the placeholders of any relevant spawns dead.

Camp hadn't fully respawned mobs, BG still had a presence.

The fact that people had to be FD and there was mobs around means that the BG people couldn't handle the camp in its current state, whatever it was, and someone else was ready to roll.

[Triangle]

Originally Posted by orangemang [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In general, a player should maintain a presence at or very near the spawn of the camp they are intending to hold, while keeping the placeholders of any relevant spawns dead.

Camp hadn't fully respawned mobs, BG still had a presence.

By BG you are referring to your own guild - based on your post history, you appear to be an officer or at least a member of Blood Guard. Just wanted to make that clear as people might otherwise presume you are merely a neutral commentator.

What is "a presence"? Is "a presence" a corpse? is it a FD member, or is it enough people to be able to handle the mobs spawned in camp? or is it enough people to handle the camp in its entirety? Seems like a lot of possible factors at play that would require a situation-by-situation determination.

The rule also doesnt reference a wipe and what a wipe entails, and that a wipe causes you to lose a camp. Wipes have generally been held to cause a group to lose a camp if another group engages after that wipe. It is clear you wiped here, and that factor, as well as all factors, will hopefully be considered by the GMs when they have the opportunity to look at what happened.

[orangemang]

Originally Posted by Triangle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By BG you are referring to your own guild - based on your post history, you appear to be an officer or at least a member of Blood Guard. Just wanted to make that clear as people might otherwise presume you are merely a neutral commentator.

What is "a presence"? Is "a presence" a corpse? is it a FD member, or is it enough people to be able to handle the mobs spawned in camp? or is it enough people to handle the camp in its entirety? Seems like a lot of possible factors at play that would require a situation-by-situation determination.

The rule also doesnt reference a wipe and what a wipe entails, and that a wipe causes you to lose a camp. Wipes have generally been held to cause a group to lose a camp if another group engages after that wipe. It is clear you wiped here, and that factor, as well as all factors, will hopefully be considered by the GMs when they have the opportunity to look at what happened.

Officer and was there. Post history isnt' hard to look up so forgive me for not pointing that out.

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^ Just so we're 100% clear