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Old 01-11-2019, 09:10 PM
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Both of these are used for all classes on P99 depending on whether the door is pickable. E.g.:

Sleeper's Tomb entrance:


Locked door in Veeshan's Peak:
Thanks paul, I'll look over the log file from Mcoy again, but I believe his message was from the boulder in paineel to hole or paineel elevator.

In which case, if I'm understanding you right, means p99 is using the wrong message?
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Old 01-11-2019, 11:03 PM
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Thanks paul, I'll look over the log file from Mcoy again, but I believe his message was from the boulder in paineel to hole or paineel elevator.

In which case, if I'm understanding you right, means p99 is using the wrong message?
If the message always corresponds to door/trigger type then the boulder should give the lock pick message and the elevator should give the key message. It's certainly possible this wasn't the case in live classic era and it depended on your class - e.g., if you weren't a rogue/bard then you never saw the lock pick message. Or perhaps it was more arbitrary, or the lock pick message simply didn't exist and only the key message was used in classic era.
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As a follow up I searched through the log files mcoy made available to me, and in his Qien log file I see him in Paineel testing on the boulder in the water (which requires a key but IS pickable):
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[Mon Nov 19 02:24:09 2001] It's locked and you're not holding the key.
Also in Plane of Sky, Island 1 (assuming a teleport pad, which requires a key but IS NOT pickable):
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[Sun Nov 11 00:36:52 2001] It's locked and you're not holding the key.
This leads me to conclude in era you should only get the same message regardless of whether or not a door is pickable. To be fair, I've no clue if there were specialized Bard/Rogue only messages that helped indicate if a lock was pickable.
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Ugh, sorry for the bunch of replies... but also to be fair, I didn't see anything in the log file of mcoy clicking on a door that no key existed for (like the door in Seb). So not sure if those had a lock pick message. If anyone had some true classic logs to search through I would love to have them, never know what gems can be found.
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Old 01-17-2019, 01:09 AM
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Ugh, sorry for the bunch of replies... but also to be fair, I didn't see anything in the log file of mcoy clicking on a door that no key existed for (like the door in Seb). So not sure if those had a lock pick message. If anyone had some true classic logs to search through I would love to have them, never know what gems can be found.
Well mcoy shared with me the balance of his logs and it so happens he had a rogue log (Eyepick) that happened to be trying to pick the lock at the bank in North Freeport (which is pickable, but no key exists for). Here is some of the log:
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[Fri Nov 16 17:52:48 2001] Players in EverQuest:
[Fri Nov 16 17:52:48 2001] ---------------------------
[Fri Nov 16 17:52:48 2001] [48 Rogue] Eyepick (Barbarian) <Dynasty> ZONE: freportn
[Fri Nov 16 17:52:48 2001] [53 Channeler] Cindani (High Elf) <Dynasty> ZONE: gfaydark
[Fri Nov 16 17:52:48 2001] [ANONYMOUS] Rarkorrn <Dynasty>
[Fri Nov 16 17:52:48 2001] There are 3 players in EverQuest.
[Fri Nov 16 17:52:54 2001] Soris Silverfield glowers at you dubiously -- he appears to be quite formidable.
[Fri Nov 16 17:52:56 2001] Soris Silverfield tells you, 'Welcome to my bank!'
[Fri Nov 16 17:53:01 2001] You are currently bound in: East Freeport
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:07 2001] Soris Silverfield tells you, 'Come back soon!'
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:14 2001] It's locked and you're not holding the key.
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:15 2001] It's locked and you're not holding the key.
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:33 2001] You do not Sense any traps.
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:45 2001] You begin to hide...
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:46 2001] You have hidden yourself from view.
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:47 2001] You begin to sneak...
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:47 2001] You are as quiet as a cat stalking its prey.
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:56 2001] You are not sufficiently skilled to pick this lock.
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:58 2001] You are not sufficiently skilled to pick this lock.
[Fri Nov 16 17:55:59 2001] You are not sufficiently skilled to pick this lock.
He is at the banker, and gets the 'It's locked and you're not holding the key.' message. Should confirm this message should be the universal locked door message for all classes (no special message for rogue / bard).

More info to come as I build this message sniffing parser!
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Section from Qien's logs:
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[Wed Nov 14 19:04:20 2001] You have entered Western Wastes.
[Wed Nov 14 19:04:31 2001] Kiladen shouts, 'yes Your god has showen his face=)'
[Wed Nov 14 19:04:35 2001] A sentinel`s voice invades your thoughts: ''Beware mortal! This land is marked by Veeshan, and is sacred to her brood. None but Dragonkin are welcome here. Your life is forfeit if you proceed. Ignore this message at your peril!''
[Wed Nov 14 19:04:39 2001] Episcia shouts, 'godLET'
[Wed Nov 14 19:04:43 2001] Caym shouts, 'no im still wearing my mask'
[Wed Nov 14 19:05:14 2001] A sentinel`s voice invades your thoughts: ''Beware mortal! This land is marked by Veeshan, and is sacred to her brood. None but Dragonkin are welcome here. Your life is forfeit if you proceed. Ignore this message at your peril!''

[Wed Nov 28 13:57:34 2001] You have entered Western Wastes.
[Wed Nov 28 13:57:36 2001] A sentinel`s voice invades your thoughts: ''Beware mortal! This land is marked by Veeshan, and is sacred to her brood. None but Dragonkin are welcome here. Your life is forfeit if you proceed. Ignore this message at your peril!''
The 'A sentinel`s voice' shout is not in any of my P99 logs, so don't believe it is functioning properly. It seems like he gets it after the first few seconds after zoning in, but did find another section where he got it twice in same zone (maybe there was a area that tripped the message?). Do what you will.

Oh, and notice it should say 'You have entered Western Wastes.'

On P99 we get:
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[Fri Sep 02 22:37:03 2016] You have entered Western Wastelands.
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