Will Horn of Hsagra + Swiftblade of Zek Significantly Out Damage Woodsman Staff?

[Cecily]

Depends on your level. You’ll get the most out of DW over 50, but that combo has like 200 hp and ridiculous ac and other stats. I don’t normally advocate weapon slots for stat but those are both stupid good, especially together.

Also, even after “epics” you’re gonna be using one of those two in main hand. Earthcaller isn’t a great weapon. Swiftwind is nice though.

[cooler2442]

Originally Posted by Sonderbeast [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gonna make a guess here, but swifty hoh should out-parse the staff.

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Depends on your level. You’ll get the most out of DW over 50, but that combo has like 200 hp and ridiculous ac and other stats. I don’t normally advocate weapon slots for stat but those are both stupid good, especially together.

Also, even after “epics” you’re gonna be using one of those two in main hand. Earthcaller isn’t a great weapon. Swiftwind is nice though.

The Ranger is lv30ish right now. What about riposte's? Will I take alot more damage by using DW vs 2H? I'm basically just solo face tanking right now which I assume I will keep doing once I get the slow epic as well since I don't want to group atm. Less downtime would be more ideal.

Just wondering if its worth to spend 200k vs 4k as Woodsman.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by cooler2442 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The Ranger is lv30ish right now. What about riposte's? Will I take alot more damage by using DW vs 2H? I'm basically just solo face tanking right now which I assume I will keep doing once I get the slow epic as well since I don't want to group atm. Less downtime would be more ideal.

Just wondering if its worth to spend 200k vs 4k as Woodsman.

It’s absolutely not, but it’s a neat combo to level with. I really enjoyed SBoZ in main before I got my Baton of Flame. Horn is better, but not by enough to justify the extra price on a ranger.

[cooler2442]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s absolutely not, but it’s a neat combo to level with. I really enjoyed SBoZ in main before I got my Baton of Flame. Horn is better, but not by enough to justify the extra price on a ranger.

I ended up testing an SboZ last night from a guildy and I definitely took alot more damage due to the riposte's compared to a Woodsman Staff. I didn't parse the damage but it seemed comparable and not a "large" difference that would beat out the riposte damage I was taking.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by cooler2442 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I ended up testing an SboZ last night from a guildy and I definitely took alot more damage due to the riposte's compared to a Woodsman Staff. I didn't parse the damage but it seemed comparable and not a "large" difference that would beat out the riposte damage I was taking.

If you didn’t parse, how can you be certain of either the significance of the differences in riposte damage taken or the significance of damage output?

Clearly it is common sense that you take more damage with the DW combination but to what extent does it make a meaningful impact? Value it’s a no brainer. It just amuses me when people specifically compare stuff anecdotally when using a parser is so easy.

I duo’d with a monk the other day who ‘felt’ his dual wield combo beat out his IFS. We parsed a good 20 fights with each setup and his IFS was putting out close to 40-50% more damage on average. His worst IFS run was barely lower than his best dual wield run.

[XeroKill]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you didn’t parse, how can you be certain of either the significance of the differences in riposte damage taken or the significance of damage output?

Clearly it is common sense that you take more damage with the DW combination but to what extent does it make a meaningful impact? Value it’s a no brainer. It just amuses me when people specifically compare stuff anecdotally when using a parser is so easy.

I duo’d with a monk the other day who ‘felt’ his dual wield combo beat out his IFS. We parsed a good 20 fights with each setup and his IFS was putting out close to 40-50% more damage on average. His worst IFS run was barely lower than his best dual wield run.

Preach it! Feelings are dumb, irrational and prone to bias... data is not. Humans especially have a tendency to notice the hits and not the misses. So, you see a hot streak of good numbers and that satisfies the lizard part of your brain. It does not, however, prove or confirm anything.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by cooler2442 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I ended up testing an SboZ last night from a guildy and I definitely took alot more damage due to the riposte's compared to a Woodsman Staff. I didn't parse the damage but it seemed comparable and not a "large" difference that would beat out the riposte damage I was taking.

Seems legit. Carry on.