How alt right forum trolls argue and how to deal with them.

[loramin]

If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can't attack the message, attack the messenger.

We are attacking the message, ya idiot.

[zodium]

Imagine if your nation spent generations sacrificing blood, sweat and tears to build the most powerful geopolitical machinery in the planet's history so their children would be safe and prosperous, only for the new generation to come along and rip the country apart from within. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine if your nation spent generations sacrificing blood, sweat and tears to build the most powerful geopolitical machinery in the planet's history so their children would be safe and prosperous, only for the new generation to come along and rip the country apart from within. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which side are you talking about? Because both sides see it that way.

[Raev]

Heh, I would say this is a textbook description of Wonkie and Ahlgador. Meanwhile Mick writes a lot.

[ScaringChildren]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Heh, I would say this is a textbook description of Wonkie and Ahlgador. Meanwhile Mick writes a lot.

Yeah, it's just an example of someone moving the goal posts.

Which is not solely a tactic of one ideology.

Everyone under the sun has done this in an argument.

Also, *drool*: http://wiki.project1999.com/Shroud_of_Longevity

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by zodium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine if your nation spent generations sacrificing blood, sweat and tears to build the most powerful geopolitical machinery in the planet's history so their children would be safe and prosperous, only for the new generation to come along and rip the country apart from within. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey this is a great post.

It illustrates my point about how there is no such thing as privilege.

In order for someone to have privilege, they must have parents who made sacrifices so that their children will have a better life.

The "privilege" people speak about is actually the "sacrifice" someone made before them, making an investment in their children's future. To shame or take that from them would be to steel from people who made a long term investment.

[zodium]

hahahaha

[maskedmelon]

liberalism and conservatism are partners. they temper the worst and promote the best in one another. bigotry is the insolent child when the two divorce, embittered, alone and unguided.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Asteria [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many of them may not understand the science that proves humans are rapidly advancing climate change

Climate change is a joke. Let me break it down for you:

• Everyone agrees that CO2 absorbs more infrared light (reflected back from the earth) than visible light (from the sun), i.e. the greenhouse effect
• The temperature change directly from CO2 is quite low and declines logarithmically. Note that we are already at 400ppm, which means that going from here to an atmosphere of 100% CO2 would only result in another 2 degrees C in warming.
• The dramatic claims of climate change come from computer models that predict a massive increase in water vapor, which is a much more effective greenhouse gas. Trying to model a complex chaotic system on a computer is somewhere between difficult and impossible.
• Even if you believe the computer models, it's not clear that a warmer earth is bad. Plants love hot and wet, and historically humans have done the best during warm periods. NYC may be under water, but Canada will be great!
• Even if you are convinced that global warming is categorically bad, there is no real way to do anything about it, since China is the big driver of global warming and they don't give a fuck.

Originally Posted by Asteria

heavily polluting many parts of the world

This is my primary environmental concern. But isn't the best thing to do to stop accepting immigrants? More people = more pollution.