Do I wear or use anything that was built with slave labor and will I face judgment?

[JurisDictum]

I just bought these shoes:

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Someone gave me $200 in Nike giftcards for my birthday... and I didn't have weightlifting shoes.

Nike is pretty famous for child labor.

Is it my fault that as some peasant given Nike giftcards I bought shoes with them instead of chucking them in the trash?

That's John Locke's argument...

I think that's bullshit. You don't necessarily approve of middle east wars when you fill your car up with gas and you don't think it's OK to discriminate against gays when you buy a Chick-fil-A sandwich*.

This is why we have laws and voting. If we could just act as some kind of disciplined group of consumer activists -- we wouldn't have the problems we do. We can't. You can't hold people to that.

Rich people are big fans of consumer activism because it allows them to feel morally superior but doesn't really affect the bottom line of their stock portfolio (because it doesn't work).

[Swish2]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just bought these shoes:

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Someone gave me $200 in Nike giftcards for my birthday... and I didn't have weightlifting shoes.

Nike is pretty famous for child labor.

It's funny how nobody forgets the legacy of slavery but a lot of famous sportspeople are seen in Nikes... Michael Jordan among them. Is he supporting slavery or not? Is JurisDictum?

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[Topgunben]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just bought these shoes:

Attachment 10338

Someone gave me $200 in Nike giftcards for my birthday... and I didn't have weightlifting shoes.

Nike is pretty famous for child labor.

Is it my fault that as some peasant given Nike giftcards I bought shoes with them instead of chucking them in the trash?

That's John Locke's argument...

I think that's bullshit. You don't necessarily approve of middle east wars when you fill your car up with gas and you don't think it's OK to discriminate against gays when you buy a Chick-fil-A sandwich*.

This is why we have laws and voting. If we could just act as some kind of disciplined group of consumer activists -- we wouldn't have the problems we do. We can't. You can't hold people to that.

Rich people are big fans of consumer activism because it allows them to feel morally superior but doesn't really affect the bottom line of their stock portfolio (because it doesn't work).

i think consumer activism does work. The NFL has taken a big hit since players have knelt during the national anthem.

Also, the bus boycotts in the south seemed to work pretty well. The only time consumer activism doesnt work is when the government continues to subsidize the business or group. Our public school systems are a great example of this.

The reason why consumer choice fails when it does, is because the reason for the boycott or shift wasnt all that important in the first place.

just my 2 cents

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Topgunben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think consumer activism does work. The NFL has taken a big hit since players have knelt during the national anthem.

Also, the bus boycotts in the south seemed to work pretty well. The only time consumer activism doesnt work is when the government continues to subsidize the business or group. Our public school systems are a great example of this.

The reason why consumer choice fails when it does, is because the reason for the boycott or shift wasnt all that important in the first place.

just my 2 cents

consumer choice fails when people can't afford consumer choice. Which is most people these days. Especially since companies like Amazon, Facebook etc are monopolies.

NFL is doing fine. A small hit does not means consumer choice "works" at changing behavior of the company.

Keep in mind the argument is not that consumer choice doesn't mean anything. The argument is that consumer choice is an ineffective way to change policy.

You bring up some notable exceptions with the Bus Boycott. That's because that vast majority of black people, all at once, stopped riding the bus for a considerable length of time. That has rarely been repeated. Keep in mind the boycott was a relatively localized affair...not global like a Nike boycott would have to be.