The Death of Red 99's Circle Jerk- Classic Details Inside

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by Sirlious Mudhbuth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i think you fall on the berger side of things

If you say so. Guy is so angry and cryptic it's hard to tell what the insult is supposed to be.

[kotton05]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you say so. Guy is so angry and cryptic it's hard to tell what the insult is supposed to be.

all you do is talk bullshit and hate on everything. is that cryptic enough for ya?

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you say so. Guy is so angry and cryptic it's hard to tell what the insult is supposed to be.

You just said:

1) You want to know how it works
2) Once you heard it was based on P99 prevention methods you said how easy it would be for you to cheat (but you still like playing on p99 for some reason)
3) You don't want to play on a server that doesn't explain how they would catch people for cheating.

They are very open about who gets banned, changes that are made, items discovered, character information, all in the name of transparency. If you don't understand why developers don't want everyone to understand the details of their security then your game selection will be very limited.


You look dumb to everyone that reads your opinion on this.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

2) Once you heard it was based on P99 prevention methods you said how easy it would be for you to cheat (but you still like playing on p99 for some reason)

You missed the point entirely. The information he's trying to hide (their detection strategy) is readily available for an attacker. That doesn't mean actually cheating without getting caught is easy.

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you don't understand why developers don't want everyone to understand the details of their security then your game selection will be very limited.

P99 offers an appropriate level of insight into their security in my opinion. I'm wholly unconvinced that AngryDev meets the same standards, let alone "far exceeds" P99.

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You look dumb to everyone that reads your opinion on this.

All I see are people desperately defending a startup server despite lack of due diligence. I'm sure it has nothing to do with them getting rejected on Red for being cheats, bergs, sore losers, ect.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You missed the point entirely. The information he's trying to hide (their detection strategy) is readily available for an attacker. That doesn't mean actually cheating without getting caught is easy.



P99 offers an appropriate level of insight into their security in my opinion. I'm wholly unconvinced that AngryDev meets the same standards, let alone "far exceeds" P99.



All I see are people desperately defending a startup server despite lack of due diligence. I'm sure it has nothing to do with them getting rejected on Red for being cheats, bergs, sore losers, ect.

Neither of the devs got banned on Red99 for cheating. Tune has probably been banned more than anyone on Red99 and he is still playing. No dev is going to care about your thin line on what is too much or not enough information on what their hack detection is. The fact is, people were caught and banned already within the last week. How long has it been since any attention was given to Red99?

I understand reasons to not play RoZ if you are in an established guild on Red99 and want to keep raiding. Being worried about hacking is not a valid reason though, Red99 has no oversight, you can do whatever you want.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How long has it been since any attention was given to Red99?

Beestow ate the last MQ bans that I know of. He's over on RoZ with you now, lol.

It's cute that a random list of people banned based on unspecified criteria is enough to sell you though.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Baugi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Beestow ate the last MQ bans that I know of. He's over on RoZ with you now, lol.

It's cute that a random list of people banned based on unspecified criteria is enough to sell you though.

I'm not worried about hacking. I don't really care. I just pointed out how dumb you are for complaining that a Dev won't explain his cheat detection to the degree that you see fit.

[Baugi]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not worried about hacking. I don't really care. I just pointed out how dumb you are for complaining that a Dev won't explain his cheat detection to the degree that you see fit.

You mean... at all? I'm not sure how to explain better that the level of detail I'm asking for is both industry standard and no risk to his detection system. Refusal to give that information out is a telltale sign that the system is shit (which makes sense given the number of historic cheaters currently playing on the server).

For someone who doesn't know or care about security, you seem really determined to defend AngryDev's security lol. Maybe you just like bantering? I don't mind if that's the case.