Current #2 raid guild on server?

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Fri Jun 15 06:09:59 2018] There are 41 players in Skyshrine.
close, 45 pretty much 110 amirite

join the zerg

That’s as many as almost any other guild fields during its prime time, and you’re doing it at 6 am (somewhere). I don’t mean this as a criticism, but saying you don’t bring 110 for Yeli at 6 am isn’t super persuasive regarding the “Zerg.”

I like competing with you guys, and have fun doing it, but AM’s numbers are a big part of why it is able to dominate for mobs at all hours of the day.

[Phenyo]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

but AM’s numbers are a big part of why it is able to dominate for mobs at all hours of the day.

clueless

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Phenyo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

clueless

Is there any other guild on the server that can field a Yeli kill force at 6 am on a weekday? When you have numbers like AM, and no one else does, there are uncontested mobs. Now, don’t get me wrong, AM dominates on contested mobs too, but there would be less round the clock domination if AM was the same size as other guilds. AM’s size also allows it to split forces and be in multiple places more effectively, which is something that no other guild on the server can do. AM’s numbers also allow it to keep more people on the line and in zone for immediate pulls on FTE, increasing the odds of a successful pull on pop.

All of these things are advantages based on numbers. AM also has some of the most skilled players on the server. But to call me clueless for saying that the numbers helps isn’t well thought out. They do help, and when combined with skill, allow for AM to pick up the vast majority of mobs they target. That isn’t a criticism, it’s a fact. Like I said, I like competing with you guys and have fun doing it - but the numbers help you do what you do. It just isn’t the experience that everyone wants.

[Phenyo]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there any other guild on the server that can field a Yeli kill force at 6 am on a weekday? When you have numbers like AM, and no one else does, there are uncontested mobs. Now, don’t get me wrong, AM dominates on contested mobs too, but there would be less round the clock domination if AM was the same size as other guilds. AM’s size also allows it to split forces and be in multiple places more effectively, which is something that no other guild on the server can do. AM’s numbers also allow it to keep more people on the line and in zone for immediate pulls on FTE, increasing the odds of a successful pull on pop.

All of these things are advantages based on numbers. AM also has some of the most skilled players on the server. But to call me clueless for saying that the numbers helps isn’t well thought out. They do help, and when combined with skill, allow for AM to pick up the vast majority of mobs they target. That isn’t a criticism, it’s a fact. Like I said, I like competing with you guys and have fun doing it - but the numbers help you do what you do. It just isn’t the experience that everyone wants.

>Is there any other guild on the server that can field a Yeli kill force at 6 am on a weekday?
yes
>When you have numbers like AM, and no one else does, there are uncontested mobs.
no
> AM’s size also allows it to split forces and be in multiple places more effectively
are you suggesting AM split raids?
>keep more people on the line and in zone for immediate pulls on FTE
have you seen a rte force? its like 7 people

Everything you say makes it painfully obvious that you are clueless

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Phenyo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

>Is there any other guild on the server that can field a Yeli kill force at 6 am on a weekday?
yes
>When you have numbers like AM, and no one else does, there are uncontested mobs.
no
> AM’s size also allows it to split forces and be in multiple places more effectively
are you suggesting AM split raids?
>keep more people on the line and in zone for immediate pulls on FTE
have you seen a rte force? its like 7 people

Everything you say makes it painfully obvious that you are clueless

Then enlighten me, please. I do love to be educated.

[d3r14k]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then enlighten me, please. I do love to be educated.

I have some enlightenment for you:

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[MagpieRockyl]

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I have some enlightenment for you:

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This is funny

[bspa0700]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is there any other guild on the server that can field a Yeli kill force at 6 am on a weekday? When you have numbers like AM, and no one else does, there are uncontested mobs. Now, don’t get me wrong, AM dominates on contested mobs too, but there would be less round the clock domination if AM was the same size as other guilds. AM’s size also allows it to split forces and be in multiple places more effectively, which is something that no other guild on the server can do. AM’s numbers also allow it to keep more people on the line and in zone for immediate pulls on FTE, increasing the odds of a successful pull on pop.

All of these things are advantages based on numbers. AM also has some of the most skilled players on the server. But to call me clueless for saying that the numbers helps isn’t well thought out. They do help, and when combined with skill, allow for AM to pick up the vast majority of mobs they target. That isn’t a criticism, it’s a fact. Like I said, I like competing with you guys and have fun doing it - but the numbers help you do what you do. It just isn’t the experience that everyone wants.

It's a bit off topic to reply to this, but I'll comment.

I think you're pretty much dead on. One point you left out though is why our numbers are huge right now. They are huge because we were winning. And as you put it, numbers increase the time at which we can win or have 'uncontested' mobs. Therefore, we're winning more and more.

The other underlying point you made is about skill players, trackers, and pull team. That stuff is huge. That's where dragons are won and lost, and frankly, we've got the best. The innovators, the workers, the thirst to win every single spawn -- its great to work with such a wonderful team.

That said, this thread is supposed to be about who is #2.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Baylan295 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That’s as many as almost any other guild fields during its prime time, and you’re doing it at 6 am (somewhere). I don’t mean this as a criticism, but saying you don’t bring 110 for Yeli at 6 am isn’t super persuasive regarding the “Zerg.”

I like competing with you guys, and have fun doing it, but AM’s numbers are a big part of why it is able to dominate for mobs at all hours of the day.

Not really. Most mobs can be killed with 30 raiders. It will always come down to the pull team and dedicated trackers.

[Baylan295]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not really. Most mobs can be killed with 30 raiders. It will always come down to the pull team and dedicated trackers.

Yeah, but to get 30 people on is a much lower percentage of AM’s population. The only time most guilds get 30-40+ on at one time is during prime time and EQs. This is where the numbers help. It isn’t a criticism.