Gamebreaking items.

[Bboboo]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No
Cleric epic clickie is a Rez. Meaning the person is dead as a door nail.
aka not a cheat death item.

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[Moerne]

Originally Posted by Rygar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And yes, fungi should have been a no drop item in VP, no business being tradeable from seb camp.

Something I've always been curious about. Devs decided the Rubicite BP was too OP and took it out of the game. Then on the very next expansion, they turned around and put the in the fungi which has a much more powerful regen, and can be used by additional classes. It just makes zero sense.

[kjs86z]

Rechargable clickies - all of em

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Bboboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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The phrase cheating death is commonly used to describe the manner in which a person avoids a possibly fatal event or who prolongs their life in spite of considerable odds.

If someone dies they're not cheating death. If someone has to get resurrected that means they died.
You may want to refresh yourself on my original post on the subject.

[Neno]

Originally Posted by Moerne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Something I've always been curious about. Devs decided the Rubicite BP was too OP and took it out of the game. Then on the very next expansion, they turned around and put the in the fungi which has a much more powerful regen, and can be used by additional classes. It just makes zero sense.

Rubicite armor had several problems that led to its removal, the hp regen was AFAIK not one of them. Some of it had to deal with class balance issues at the time like a ranger in full rubi being a better tank than a warrior in full rubi because of the def caps that were around back then. The rubi camps were plagued with drama as multiple groups would sit on the spawns and often KS each other causing a nightmare for the GMs. The armor itself wasn't really all that great with the exception of it looking cool. The HP regen was really only highly regarded by low level alts and shamans. Most people would be better off in Brig Tunics/Enameled Black Chestplates.

The rubi BP was essentially reintroduced in RoK as the Ceremonial Iksar Chestplate which had very little hype surrounding it due to it not being cool looking red plate.

[Nikkanu]

How did this get to page 6 without mentioning Shissar Apothic Staff ?!?

300hp heal every 7 seconds, 0 mana cost, and unlike Torpor it has NO attack speed slow or snare effect. It's like Torpor, only better, and MANA FREE!

As good as Donal's BP + Manastone combo was in classic, I think the VP heal staff is stronger in Velious (especially combined with the increase in tank HP and AC from Velious gear).

Can't really compare fungi's passive hp/tick to a 250+ hp/tick clicky. =)

[oqrelord]

I think clicky's are the most gamebreaking items simply because of the recharging. Meaning if you've amassed a few key clickys, it completely alters the way you play the game.

I would also say that it is a serendipitous feature because it acts as one of the few money sinks for this long server lifespan.

[Baler]

Originally Posted by Nikkanu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How did this get to page 6 without mentioning Shissar Apothic Staff ?!?

300hp heal every 7 seconds, 0 mana cost, and unlike Torpor it has NO attack speed slow or snare effect. It's like Torpor, only better, and MANA FREE!

As good as Donal's BP + Manastone combo was in classic, I think the VP heal staff is stronger in Velious (especially combined with the increase in tank HP and AC from Velious gear).

Can't really compare fungi's passive hp/tick to a 250+ hp/tick clicky. =)

270hp heal*
Torpor recast time is 6 seconds, faster than 7 seconds
Torpor lasts 4 ticks which is every 6 seconds, essentially making it endless as you can start casting with 6s left.
Can cast spells with torp active. Can't cast spells while casting this clickie spell.

Nice try but not quite. If it was Celestial Elixir, Superior Healing or Chloroblast you may have a case, but it's not.

270*4=1080 in 28s
300*4=1200 in 19s to 24s (heals happen on server ticks)

[paulgiamatti]

Something about classic-specificity seems trivializing to me - as powerful as some spells like Torpor or Complete Healing are, they're still restricted to that class, and SoulFire is too bottlenecked and Reapers are too expensive. And despite the utility of Torpor, enchanters are far more powerful soloers. Which makes me want to change my answer: Puppet Strings, assuming you have no issues dropping the half a million on a pair. After that it's 80pp per click for sheer unadulterated game destruction.

Other than that, Red and White Dragon Tooth seem to have some seriously gamebreaking potential, assuming they haven't been nerfed. If you're willing to roll the dice you could theoretically powerlevel yourself from 1 to 50 in one playing session, assuming your pet doesn't die.

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Baler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

270hp heal*
Torpor recast time is 6 seconds, faster than 7 seconds
Torpor lasts 4 ticks which is every 6 seconds, essentially making it endless as you can start casting with 6s left.
Can cast spells with torp active. Can't cast spells while casting this clickie spell.

Nice try but not quite. If it was Celestial Elixir, Superior Healing or Chloroblast you may have a case, but it's not.

270*4=1080 in 28s
300*4=1200 in 19s to 24s (heals happen on server ticks)

A 60 cleric casting greater healing heals for 300hp, all other classes heal for 270. Don't see why the staff wouldn't apply the Cleric heal bonus, but it's possible.

I agree with Nikkanu it's incredibly OP and that's probably why it eventually got nerfed. It's a shame the Enchanter VP staff doesn't cast regular Allure or it'd be one of the most OP items in the game and infinitely more useful for a soloing Enchanter than epic haste in most situations.