40 day raid ban

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Naethyn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here is a hypothetical for you Loramin. Tell me how Anon would respond. Please read and consider.

Both <Anonymous> and <Kittens Who Meow> are in arena and both want to kill Derakor the Vindicator. After some discussion neither guild is willing to back down and whoever pulls it first will likely get that sweet Vindi BP. Now, Kittens pull it first. The engage looks good, but they didn't properly set up rampage damage, and the raid is wiping. Vindi ends up socialing on Anonymous and wipes both guilds. Kittens, being the honorable guild they are, concedes this Vindi, and Anonymous is clear to make a pull. Kittens decided they want to keep farming coldain armor and they do not leave arena. At this point only Kittens and Anonymous are in the zone and Anonymous tries to make a pull. The pull goes bad and trains the Kittens who have already conceded the mob but stuck around.

Now, being there is no other competition in the zone does Anonymous.

A. Concede Vindi and walk away, even though there is no more competition in the zone.
B. Pull Vindi again, because the guild Anonymous trained already conceded and are no longer competing.
C. Offer to group with Kittens and kill the mob.

Genuinely interested in what you realistically think would happen.

Again, engagement, yay! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But what do I think? Well here's what I don't think: I don't think Rogean and Sirken made rules which make it impossible to raid Vindi when there's a group XPing nearby. Of course, if Anon doesn't take reasonable steps to avoid impacting the XP group (like say they pick a particular kill spot which is convenient over a less convenient one away from the XP group) they could get a suspension, but if they take all reasonable measures to avoid impacting the XP group I'm skeptical that Rogean's/Sirken's rules say they will get a suspension for it.

And even if that is the case, those are the rules, but that doesn't make them impossible to follow! If those really are the rules, Anon could play by the rules by hanging out until the XP group goes away, and risk losing their Vindi. Sounds lame, but then when the roles are reversed Kittens would have to do the same, and the key thing is that Anon would have chosen actions which don't lead to a suspension.

But again, while I'm not a rules lawyer or A/A member, I'm skeptical of the idea that a Kittens (or any other) XP group can make it impossible for another guild to raid Vindi without that raid potentially eating a suspension if anything goes wrong.