AW...whelp..here it goes again...

[raato]

Originally Posted by Kluwen1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok let me rephrase what specifically has AM done to you that has led you to that conclusion.

I only got old examples since I don't raid much on P99 anymore, because the rules at their current state allow edge to people who are willing to cheat and break the rules so I rather play on server without any raiding rules.

But there was this CT some time ago when you could still kite trash outside of leashing range while killing CT and after CSG engaged CT and had kite under control AM members used bladestoppers and mallets etc. to overagro mobs from CSGs kite to bring them close enough to CT to get CSG raid trained. AM didn't eat punishment for it, eventho server staff agreed that you had wronged, but this rule change went in instead: "Removed: All bits dictating what a concession must be, and all bits stating that they must be accepted.". Because at that time it was common strategy that A/A did some very shady shit to get "wins" and when you got caught you only lost 1 mobs loots, since concessions must have been accepted if it was offered.

Then there was one time in ST when MOTG and Prog were up and AM pulled MOTG first kiting trash around in the big room and you kept the kite going eventho you didn't have to anymore (I understand that you were just prepping to pull Prog next), then CSG went ahead and pulled Prog and the moment our puller entered big room your guys dropped their kite on top of our puller to get him killed and making us fail the pull. Our pullers werent frapsing, so there was no proof what had happened.

And this is just couple examples, I think I can manage to remember few more if you want.

[Phatez]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I only got old examples since I don't raid much on P99 anymore, because the rules at their current state allow edge to people who are willing to cheat and break the rules so I rather play on server without any raiding rules.

But there was this CT some time ago when you could still kite trash outside of leashing range while killing CT and after CSG engaged CT and had kite under control AM members used bladestoppers and mallets etc. to overagro mobs from CSGs kite to bring them close enough to CT to get CSG raid trained. AM didn't eat punishment for it, eventho server staff agreed that you had wronged, but this rule change went in instead: "Removed: All bits dictating what a concession must be, and all bits stating that they must be accepted.". Because at that time it was common strategy that A/A did some very shady shit to get "wins" and when you got caught you only lost 1 mobs loots, since concessions must have been accepted if it was offered.

Then there was one time in ST when MOTG and Prog were up and AM pulled MOTG first kiting trash around in the big room and you kept the kite going eventho you didn't have to anymore (I understand that you were just prepping to pull Prog next), then CSG went ahead and pulled Prog and the moment our puller entered big room your guys dropped their kite on top of our puller to get him killed and making us fail the pull. Our pullers werent frapsing, so there was no proof what had happened.

And this is just couple examples, I think I can manage to remember few more if you want.

I guess this is completely off topic but I genuinely am curious about this. If someone is kiting 4+ mobs at 100% hp are you not allowed to rip those mobs off them? I was under the impression you are. If a bard is kiting all of fear is another bard allowed to bladestopper them to rip the kite and bring the mobs in for AoE? Not sure...

[raato]

Originally Posted by Phatez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess this is completely off topic but I genuinely am curious about this. If someone is kiting 4+ mobs at 100% hp are you not allowed to rip those mobs off them? I was under the impression you are. If a bard is kiting all of fear is another bard allowed to bladestopper them to rip the kite and bring the mobs in for AoE? Not sure...

They were ripping the mobs of from a controlled kite to train another raid party. I'm under impression that is a raid interference.

[Teako]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They were ripping the mobs of from a controlled kite to train another raid party. I'm under impression that is a raid interference.

We have verified that Awakened has done this a handful of occasions (pets attacking Vulak, healing our tank, punching vulak and standing in their corner) and have had to concede the target every single solitary time because AW cried foul.

Event sent a few videos of a cleric walking up, macing Vulak, and walking back to the corner.. Still demanded a concession, which we obliged.

We tried to make wiping a a legit kill attempt on a mob at ToV ent not petitionable, but Breaken is Breaken and didn't want to.

[Mud]

Originally Posted by Teako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We have verified that Awakened has done this a handful of occasions (pets attacking Vulak, healing our tank, punching vulak and standing in their corner) and have had to concede the target every single solitary time because AW cried foul.

Event sent a few videos of a cleric walking up, macing Vulak, and walking back to the corner.. Still demanded a concession, which we obliged.

We tried to make wiping a a legit kill attempt on a mob at ToV ent not petitionable, but Breaken is Breaken and didn't want to.

More hyperbole and slander. Again Tydes, what the hell is wrong with you? You have a history of manipulation and lies that spans multiple guilds over the past several years.

[Teako]

Originally Posted by Mud [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

More hyperbole and slander. Again Tydes, what the hell is wrong with you? You have a history of manipulation and lies that spans multiple guilds over the past several years.

Would you like me to find the frapses of your clerics hitting Vulak? or your druids sending pets in and standing in the corner?

Are you trying to troll pertaining to "history of manipulation" ? I left Divinity because Drakakade was awful and couldn't stand him trying to strong-arm me into giving back raid loot I had been awarded for his alts lol.

Lies? In regards to what? None of your leadership is disputing the things I say. Know why? they're true.

[Mud]

Originally Posted by Teako [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would you like me to find the frapses of your clerics hitting Vulak? or your druids sending pets in and standing in the corner?

Are you trying to troll pertaining to "history of manipulation" ? I left Divinity because Drakakade was awful and couldn't stand him trying to strong-arm me into giving back raid loot I had been awarded for his alts lol.

Lies? In regards to what? None of your leadership is disputing the things I say. Know why? they're true.

Yeah, actually, I would. Put some evidence behind what you're claiming. Planarity easily displayed earlier in this thread that you manufacture delusions about past events.

[Tupakk]

Originally Posted by Phatez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess this is completely off topic but I genuinely am curious about this. If someone is kiting 4+ mobs at 100% hp are you not allowed to rip those mobs off them? I was under the impression you are. If a bard is kiting all of fear is another bard allowed to bladestopper them to rip the kite and bring the mobs in for AoE? Not sure...

Yes you can.

[Rang]

In the immortal words of a forum hero

(sorry you didn't get raid)

"Competition" on a PvE based server is just about the dumbest thing I've ever heard. This server will work best with 1 top end guild and lesser feeder guilds getting rotated epic completion content.

If you want "competition", the PvP server is available. Someone trained you? Instead of berging about it in tells/on forum, you can go kill that player. Problem solved.

[Fragged]

Originally Posted by raato [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I only got old examples since I don't raid much on P99 anymore, because the rules at their current state allow edge to people who are willing to cheat and break the rules so I rather play on server without any raiding rules.

But there was this CT some time ago when you could still kite trash outside of leashing range while killing CT and after CSG engaged CT and had kite under control AM members used bladestoppers and mallets etc. to overagro mobs from CSGs kite to bring them close enough to CT to get CSG raid trained. AM didn't eat punishment for it, eventho server staff agreed that you had wronged, but this rule change went in instead: "Removed: All bits dictating what a concession must be, and all bits stating that they must be accepted.". Because at that time it was common strategy that A/A did some very shady shit to get "wins" and when you got caught you only lost 1 mobs loots, since concessions must have been accepted if it was offered.

Then there was one time in ST when MOTG and Prog were up and AM pulled MOTG first kiting trash around in the big room and you kept the kite going eventho you didn't have to anymore (I understand that you were just prepping to pull Prog next), then CSG went ahead and pulled Prog and the moment our puller entered big room your guys dropped their kite on top of our puller to get him killed and making us fail the pull. Our pullers werent frapsing, so there was no proof what had happened.

And this is just couple examples, I think I can manage to remember few more if you want.

Raato The reason I specifically asked you if you wanted us to concede the loot that day was because we had spoken with the GMs about your constant false accusations and they were ready to suspended you for crying wolf. So I was just waiting for you to say the magic words. Lucky for your guild that you didn't.