Raid Rotation

[HalasHermit]

Originally Posted by Vilkata [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I get confused everytime I hear someone say they want competition. All I see are 2 guilds with multiple lvl 60 toons, many with BIS gear parked in many different zones ready to log in and zerg any mob that pops. Ive seen King Tormax drop minutes after spawning. No casual guild could ever compete with that. Then you admit you rotate mobs with the one guild that could actually compete with you. I am not advocating for a rotation. Dont think any would last. I just find it slightly funny about the competition thing. Ive also noticed big guilds leaving the tougher mobs in ToV up just to roll over lesser targets cause they know nobody else can get many of the NTOV mobs. Is Gorenaire really more valuable to you than Lord Feshlak?

In no particular order....

• The rotation is only on the mobs that yielded 90% of the petitions, given the escalating ban rule, this is just common sense. And as Legday pointed out, prime opportunity to snipe, I know both PS and CSG have leveraged this to their advantage in the past couple months.
• That's the whole point, they don't care about the pixels, they just enjoy racing another guild to a mob.
• All I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to eliminate the only competition server for classic EQ in existence.
• Sirken himself in his big post listed earlier that current situation is the most fair it has been in a long time.

On a separate note, special shout out to those of you that have reached out over the ban with logic and level headed thinking as opposed to blind hatred, <3 you all.

[Vilkata]

Originally Posted by HalasHermit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In no particular order....

• The rotation is only on the mobs that yielded 90% of the petitions, given the escalating ban rule, this is just common sense.
• That's the whole point, they don't care about the pixels, they just enjoy racing another guild to a mob.
• All I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to eliminate the only competition server for classic EQ in existence.
• Sirken himself in his big post listed earlier that current situation is the most fair it has been in a long time.

On a separate note, special shout out to those of you that have reached out over the ban with logic and level headed thinking as opposed to blind hatred, <3 you all.

But the rotation you have allows you to focus more on lesser mobs that casual guilds would go for to build themselves up. If you were still racing with each other, lesser guilds could sneak in Eashen, Dagarn and the like.

[HalasHermit]

Originally Posted by Vilkata [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But the rotation you have allows you to focus more on lesser mobs that casual guilds would go for to build themselves up. If you were still racing with each other, lesser guilds could sneak in Eashen, Dagarn and the like.

Last I checked, triples weren't considered 100% USDA Prime time....I actually remember it was our turn for triples back in early Feb and a couple casual guilds teamed up to go for triples and we left them alone for a few hours and after 9 or 10 tries they finally got the pulls down and got one down, then the other then the other.

Hell our pull team was even cheering them on in ooc....

[Legday]

Originally Posted by Vilkata [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But the rotation you have allows you to focus more on lesser mobs that casual guilds would go for to build themselves up. If you were still racing with each other, lesser guilds could sneak in Eashen, Dagarn and the like.

Actually believe it or not but outside targets such as Sev and Gore are just as sought after as a mob like Fesh (who has one of the worst loot tables in tov). We have members that want green or white scales more than anything else. Not to mention Prayers of Life and torpor. Just because kunark dragons can drop vendor trash doesn't mean they don't have top loot.

[Vilkata]

Originally Posted by HalasHermit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Last I checked, triples weren't considered 100% USDA Prime time....I actually remember it was our turn for triples back in early Feb and a couple casual guilds teamed up to go for triples and we left them alone for a few hours and after 9 or 10 tries they finally got the pulls down and got one down, then the other then the other.

Hell our pull team was even cheering them on in ooc....

I think that was really nice of your guild to cheer them on. But how many times is that going to happen? I still refer back to my earlier point. I think if you were still worried about losing mobs to Awakened, more lesser targets like triplets would fall to smaller guilds. No rotation needed.

[Vilkata]

Originally Posted by Legday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually believe it or not but outside targets such as Sev and Gore are just as sought after as a mob like Fesh (who has one of the worst loot tables in tov). We have members that want green or white scales more than anything else. Not to mention Prayers of Life and torpor. Just because kunark dragons can drop vendor trash doesn't mean they don't have top loot.

I stand corrected.

[beargryllz]

Originally Posted by Vilkata [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think that was really nice of your guild to cheer them on. But how many times is that going to happen?

Triplets/Twins are left up almost every single time. It takes quite a while to push back Vulak's window far enough to make going for twins/triplets viable for A/A. This last ban, AM could sit on Vulak forever to push him out of window, but that isn't normal. Or is it?

Casuals could literally spend 3 hours mobilizing and they'd still have time to spare after a quake and still walk away with several NTOV dragon kills

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by icedwards [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When you are dealing with that many different people, with that many different play-styles, it is literally impossible for one single course of action to make everyone happy. Surely it's possible to make one group happy, but i'm a firm believer in the school of a good negotiation means no one walks away from the table completely satisfied.

It's true they can't make everyone happy, but they could at least try to make most happy. I'll go out on a limb and say most people in A/A don't like waking up to batphones, but it's the only way they can see those pixels. Why enable the tiny fraction of raiders who want to do that to have so much control over so much content?

Originally Posted by HalasHermit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

• That's the whole point, they don't care about the pixels, they just enjoy racing another guild to a mob.

I bet this isn't true for most people on those raids. Most are there for the pixels because it's the only way to get them.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll go out on a limb and say most people in A/A don't like waking up to batphones, but it's the only way they can see those pixels. Why enable the tiny fraction of raiders who want to do that to have so much control over so much content?

QFT

[HalasHermit]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I bet this isn't true for most people on those raids. Most are there for the pixels because it's the only way to get them.

Never said it was the majority or made any reference to numbers or breakdowns. My main point was that those people do exist and this is the only server that offers that play style.