Intelligence is Genetic

[loramin]

Didn't read the article, but ...

1) "intelligence" as a thing does not exist. There are something like 6-10 different types of intelligence (different researchers disagree) and they many don't even correlate with each other. In other words, if you're "math smart" it does not necessarily mean you are "language smart" or "musically smart", so there is no (plain and simple) "smart".

2) Almost everything about humans is a combination of genetics and environment (nature and nurture), so even if there was a "general intelligence" it wouldn't be true to say "Intelligence is genetic". All you can say is "Each particular type of intelligence has both genetic and environmental components, and we now know that at least 10% of whatever type of intelligence they were studying is genetic"

[katrik]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't read the article, but ...

1) "intelligence" as a thing does not exist. There are something like 6-10 different types of intelligence (different researchers disagree) and they many don't even correlate with each other. In other words, if you're "math smart" it does not necessarily mean you are "language smart" or "musically smart", so there is no (plain and simple) "smart".

2) Almost everything about humans is a combination of genetics and environment (nature and nurture), so even if there was a "general intelligence" it wouldn't be true to say "Intelligence is genetic". All you can say is "Each particular type of intelligence has both genetic and environmental components, and we now know that at least 10% of whatever type of intelligence they were studying is genetic"

This. Both scientists and psychologists acknowledge that intelligence is a theory, and they have virtually no good way to test it (or if it exists). IQ tests have no scientific backing.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Didn't read the article, but ...

1) "intelligence" as a thing does not exist. There are something like 6-10 different types of intelligence (different researchers disagree) and they many don't even correlate with each other. In other words, if you're "math smart" it does not necessarily mean you are "language smart" or "musically smart", so there is no (plain and simple) "smart".

Why didn't you just write that you have no idea what g is? You are free to disagree with the source(s) of g and shill whatever ideological delusions you liek in support of your position, but arguing that g doesn't exist is simply retarded. Your position is at odds with language, statistics and decades of psychometrics.

2) Almost everything about humans is a combination of genetics and environment (nature and nurture), so even if there was a "general intelligence" it wouldn't be true to say "Intelligence is genetic". All you can say is "Each particular type of intelligence has both genetic and environmental components, and we now know that at least 10% of whatever type of intelligence they were studying is genetic"

Absolutely agree with the initial premise of your first sentence, but everything thereafter is entirely wrong. I didn't say that intelligence was exclusively genetic, nor does the article make that claim. Not even the well established and uncontroversial understanding of the nature of g imply any such thing. Feel free to waylay the phantoms though.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didn't say that intelligence was exclusively genetic, nor does the article make that claim. Not even the well established and uncontroversial understanding of the nature of g imply any such thing. Feel free to waylay the phantoms though.

The title of your post was literally "Intelligence is Genetic", but sure I'm "waylaying phantoms" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In other news, I miss the other melon; bring him back.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The title of your post was literally "Intelligence is Genetic", but sure I'm "waylaying phantoms" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree with you on both of these points.

In other news, I miss the other melon; bring him back.

I'm still here. I just learned from previous Loramin interactions that my behavior was emboldening and neither change nor progress were forthcoming, so I adopted a new approach (^.~)v not gonna let loramin get away with bullying anymore.