I invite anyone to have a regular discussion about guns, feel free to ask anything

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by katrik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think a nation wide gun database sounds like a good idea; if implemented correctly. Mandatory psych/background checks every few months. Those are just ideas; No other developed country in the world has this problem. We need to do something.
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no other nation has this problem is such a miss conception

Did you know the mass murder rate in america is just short of canada?

Did you know that 80% of the gun violence in this country that isnt from suicide (counting school shootings) happens becuse of illegal guns in gang territory (democrat) cities?

Did you know that no other nation had the bill of rights OR the freedoms that we share until, years after the bill of rights?

did you know that the bill of rights is there to protect us from, an elected goverment that has the voice of a loud minority of people that will use that directory to arrest the citizens that are capable of protecting themselves from a hostle goverment?

The reason we will never have a national database is becuse it infringes on WAY to many of the founding rights that made this country a free country in the first place.

I know you think that there is nothing to worry about, but then again we were all freaking out about a fascist demagog being elected, luckaly for us we al lknew that was bullshit rhetoric (From the same people that are arguing for gun control mind you, yeah im realy going to trust them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]) but seriously, look at the left, just look at it, imagine it going in the same direction its been going in the last 6 years, for antoher 40, and try and tell me that its not possible for GOOD PEOPLE to turn into tyrants, to enact their "moral" superior agenda, which is "eliminate all the jews" er.. Imean "eliminate all the people who are preventing us from living in a social utopia"

its not science fiction, this is historical fact, after a few hundred years ALL SOCIETIES collapse, and are restructured, you are comfortable now, but the reason you are comfortable now is because of the Bill of Rights.

We must maintain this, or we are trying to destroy america, it is the ONE thing that seperates us, it made us, it brought freedom to the entire world as they followed suit.

If you are against guns, you are, against america. You just have been informed that you are on the "moral high ground"

But you were informed that by people like Obama, who as we've discovered in this thread outright LIED about the current law, to manipulate people into thinking his idiology was the right idiology.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But you were informed that by people like Obama, who as we've discovered in this thread outright LIED about the current law, to manipulate people into thinking his idiology was the right idiology.

it was true at the time he said it. time is linear.

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it was true at the time he said it. time is linear.

It was not true, it was never true, you linked the dickey amendment, the dickey amendment didnt change, the cdc was never EVER prevented from studing gun violence. It was a lie, right out of the mouth of your silvered tongued devil you think was a "class act"

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was not true, it was never true, you linked the dickey amendment, the dickey amendment didnt change, the cdc was never EVER prevented from studing gun violence. It was a lie, right out of the mouth of your silvered tongued devil you think was a "class act"

how about the ranking military supervisor of the CDC going missing at the ripe age of 35. No cell phone taken, no keys, no wallet, no dog, nada. All left in his apartment. Car in driveway. Final text to mom at 5:21 AM. Disappeared shortly after.

WaPo covering it so its not a conspiracy theory. ABC news as well. You on that?

[AzzarTheGod]

Police fighting with CDC over details. CDC told police different versions of events.

Ruh row. Damage control.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ate/423594002/

[AzzarTheGod]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.862c024e3cc1

Police literally fighting with CDC lol.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was not true, it was never true, you linked the dickey amendment, the dickey amendment didnt change, the cdc was never EVER prevented from studing gun violence. It was a lie, right out of the mouth of your silvered tongued devil you think was a "class act"

On March 21, 2018, Congressional negotiators reached a deal on an Omnibus continuing resolution. The 1.3 trillion dollar spending agreement also includes language that codified Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar interpretation of the Dickey Rider in testimony on February 18, 2018, before the US House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee.[14] While the amendment itself remains, the language in a report accompanying the Omnibus spending bill clarifies that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can, in fact, conduct research into gun violence.[15] It was signed into legislation by U.S. President Donald J. Trump on March 23, 2018. [16]

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

On March 21, 2018, Congressional negotiators reached a deal on an Omnibus continuing resolution. The 1.3 trillion dollar spending agreement also includes language that codified Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar interpretation of the Dickey Rider in testimony on February 18, 2018, before the US House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee.[14] While the amendment itself remains, the language in a report accompanying the Omnibus spending bill clarifies that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can, in fact, conduct research into gun violence.[15] It was signed into legislation by U.S. President Donald J. Trump on March 23, 2018. [16]

it says it dead to rights in the dickey amendment that they can study gun violence.

Nowhere in your quote does it say they could not study gun violence. Not anywhere in any link or quote that you have given me does it say that. Anywhere.

Now if you were a little more edcuated on how spending bills work especially 3,000 page ones, there are all kinds of stupid sentences in there that mean nothing, like "now they can study gun violence" even though, nowhere did it say they could not. Politicians put words in there like that, to confuse people like you.

Honestly its why libertarians are great, they want to get rid of ALL that bullshit that just confuses people like ya.

"While the amendment itself remains, the language in a report accompanying the Omnibus spending bill clarifies that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can, in fact, conduct research into gun violence."

thats from your quote, what it means is it just re-iterates what I have been saying, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO, they were ALWAYS allowed to, nowhere did it say they couldnt... this is just a reminder/wording to confuse you.

notice it doesnt say "changes" it says "clarifies" which means it basically is a reminder.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by mickmoranis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it says it dead to rights in the dickey amendment that they can study gun violence.

Nowhere in your quote does it say they could not study gun violence. Not anywhere in any link or quote that you have given me does it say that. Anywhere.

Now if you were a little more edcuated on how spending bills work especially 3,000 page ones, there are all kinds of stupid sentences in there that mean nothing, like "now they can study gun violence" even though, nowhere did it say they could not. Politicians put words in there like that, to confuse people like you.

Honestly its why libertarians are great, they want to get rid of ALL that bullshit that just confuses people like ya.

"While the amendment itself remains, the language in a report accompanying the Omnibus spending bill clarifies that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention can, in fact, conduct research into gun violence."

thats from your quote, what it means is it just re-iterates what I have been saying, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO, they were ALWAYS allowed to, nowhere did it say they couldnt... this is just a reminder/wording to confuse you.

notice it doesnt say "changes" it says "clarifies" which means it basically is a reminder.

if it was already the case, why bother clarifying? you're dumb.

Honestly its why libertarians are great, they want to get rid of ALL that bullshit that just confuses people like ya.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_YgD-nL3xc

[mickmoranis]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if it was already the case, why bother clarifying? you're dumb.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_YgD-nL3xc

i told you why bother clarifying in the post you quoted its to manipulate you. but could you explain to me how im supposed to make the leap in logic that you actually think clarification means changing something? your troll is as deep as innothule swamp, meaning not very. work on it.