Sullon/Training Rules

[Envious]

Rules are for fucking faggots.

[mitic]

SULLON ZEK THE GOD OF RAGE

everything else is a compromise...

[Dfn]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rules are for fucking faggots.

[Carnal Malefactor]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rules are for fucking faggots.

this.
save for hacking.

[Envious]

Originally Posted by Envious [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rules are for fucking faggots.

[Nobb]

As opposed to "no rules" as some people seem to be, the argument against them does hold water.

Playing on a red server on live pretty much meant extremely limited GM intervention. Outside of conduct that SoE saw as harassment, like use of racial slurs, I rarely heard of GM's taking any action. The only in game "rules" that existed were constructed and enforced by the players. People who were douche bags were treated accordingly and most other people were treated fairly. As scary as it sounds to have "no rules" it's really not so bad.

It was not until much later in the life of TZ that I even heard of GM intervention taking place and I think it was because people were using hacks. My memory is a bit rusty, but I think PDM used some kind of zone cm delete crap to crash disco/indignation on Emperor when he was at 1%.

While intervention in that case was easily warranted, I don't see any reason to overburden the staff by having them try to police the server on their own. A task that I feel is really impossible anyway.

The live pvp servers had tons of underhanded bullshit going on all the time and yet many of us stuck with it. So, outside of keeping people from hacking I really don't see a reason why the success of the server will be directly linked to the presence of big brother.

[wehrmacht]

People don't quit because of no rules, they quit due to the 40 hour long CR's associated with them. Even if you only wiped in some simple zone like lower guk, when it's filled with enemy players, that could be a whopping 4+ hour cr just for that.

If you want to improve player retention, the only thing that needs to be addressed is CR. Put in sullon zek rule set and give priest of discord in towns the ability to summon corpses after they've been dead for X amount of hours. It's pretty damn simple!

[Pudge]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People don't quit because of no rules, they quit due to the 40 hour long CR's associated with them. Even if you only wiped in some simple zone like lower guk, when it's filled with enemy players, that could be a whopping 4+ hour cr just for that.

If you want to improve player retention, the only thing that needs to be addressed is CR. Put in sullon zek rule set and give priest of discord in towns the ability to summon corpses after they've been dead for X amount of hours. It's pretty damn simple!

corpse retrieval was really a big part of the EQ experience.. it's a part fo the penalty for dying. I actually liked trying to sneak into places and retrieve my corpse from corpse campers. but i do understand how it can be frustrating to ppl.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

corpse retrieval was really a big part of the EQ experience.. it's a part fo the penalty for dying. I actually liked trying to sneak into places and retrieve my corpse from corpse campers. but i do understand how it can be frustrating to ppl.

I don't think it would lessen the penalty of death that much if you let the priest of discord summon a corpse after it had been dead for 12 or 24 hours or whatever. Anytime you train a group to death at the bottom of sebillis, you'd basically be forcing them off the server for an entire day.

It just makes it so people can log off and sleep after being trained to death and actually go to their job the next day instead of staying up all night in some crazy naked CR battle till 5am.

Eventually they quit the server because that kind of play style isn't compatible for people with jobs. If you want training to be legal and want a server population above 50, it's just something you gotta do.

[naez]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eventually they quit the server because that kind of play style isn't compatible for people with jobs.

I concur we must accommodate for the peasants