Elite Colleges "Blind-sided" by Perceptions of Elitism

[skarlorn]

I like the words you're writing and yet I do not comprehend their meaning it is interesting how letter aesthetic does that huh


NOW WATCH THIS DRIVE

[Patriam1066]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like the words you're writing and yet I do not comprehend their meaning it is interesting how letter aesthetic does that huh


NOW WATCH THIS DRIVE

Lol hahaha

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The man on the off topic section of the p99 forum's thinks i'm intellectually immature. noted.

you're the one making the assertion, not me. i don't have to make an argument, you do. your argument is worthless...therefore, i don't have to do anything.

i do enjoy laughing at you, your stupidity, your desire to lash out at "elite universities" here on the p99 forums, your ignorance about higher education, etc.

you have no idea what you are talking about, but you probably already knew that. how could someone without a real degree in anything possibly understand the purpose or value of actual higher education? in your case, you don't.

i especially laughed when you equated getting a degree in clinical psych to essentially paying the bills and having the patience to wait a few years for your degree to arrive in the mail. clearly. no. clue.

this person is rustled by an incoherent marxist

[skarlorn]

Precision, by Pokesan

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The man on the off topic section of the p99 forum's thinks i'm intellectually immature. noted.

you're the one making the assertion, not me. i don't have to make an argument, you do. your argument is worthless...therefore, i don't have to do anything.

i do enjoy laughing at you, your stupidity, your desire to lash out at "elite universities" here on the p99 forums, your ignorance about higher education, etc.

you have no idea what you are talking about, but you probably already knew that. how could someone without a real degree in anything possibly understand the purpose or value of actual higher education? in your case, you don't.

i especially laughed when you equated getting a degree in clinical psych to essentially paying the bills and having the patience to wait a few years for your degree to arrive in the mail. clearly. no. clue.

I understand everything about higher education.

All of it.

You however -- do not understand anything about the topic -- clearly. Hence your stupid posts

I don't have to prove any of this -- because fastboys arguments are worthless and I win by doing nothing.

[skarlorn]

Actually u lose bc u support mediocrity in all things


gotem

[skarlorn]

Yes my undergrad in creative writing is garbage unless u wanna go do an MFA in creative writing which is basically piling radioactive waste onto a garbage bin and calling it Art. I was smart enough to pull out of that nose dive and crash my plane into the Towers of Private business then use my cunning communication skills to sell millions of dollars worth of self help programs to the desperate plebeian masses who believe in magic

That's basically best case scenario for an arts degree. Ban them from higher education, pump out more useful degrees, and let the so called artists starve, break under the yoke of capitalism, or get lucky and succeed

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes my undergrad in creative writing is garbage unless u wanna go do an MFA in creative writing which is basically piling radioactive waste onto a garbage bin and calling it Art. I was smart enough to pull out of that nose dive and crash my plane into the Towers of Private business then use my cunning communication skills to sell millions of dollars worth of self help programs to the desperate plebeian masses who believe in magic

That's basically best case scenario for an arts degree. Ban them from higher education, pump out more useful degrees, and let the so called artists starve, break under the yoke of capitalism, or get lucky and succeed

The problem with this is it interferes with all the plans to create a Marxist power center populated by liberal arts majors. So were going to have to go the free education rout instead guys.

I mean you can go ahead and try to stop it and all. You can be the guys against paying for peoples' education in an era of automation and see how that goes.

Edit: I guess most people are unaware that elite universities have historically been very conservative on economics and politics. This is where the fake studies get generated for the fake news to give out fake solutions for our fake problems. So they see a lefty criticize Harvard and their head explodes.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Spyder73 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a lot of sh!t degrees available is the problem. You should not be able to get a PhD in history for example, it devalues the entire education system.

Pretty much all non-math non-science degrees devalue the educational system now that I think about it.

As a former Modern Literature major (Education minor) who is now a programming team lead, I couldn't disagree more.

The sciences provide you with knowledge, true ... but most of it isn't very useful in a practical sense. Just ask most real-world scientists how much Organic Chemistry they actually use in their job, or ask any Psychiatrist if they can even remember their Statistics class [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] The same is true for "Computer Science": while you certainly do learn some useful knowledge about programming, 90% of it is stuff no one ever uses on the job.

It turns out this is by design: colleges aren't trade schools. The latter teach marketable knowledge, while the former teach academic knowledge. So then why would anyone even go to college if it's not for the knowledge? And why would anyone major in the humanities, where the knowledge is 100% useless unless you go into academia yourself?

Well for one thing, most jobs expect that they'll have to train new college grads. Even if you graduated magna cum laude in Economics that won't be enough for you to succeed as a financial analyst; whatever firm hires you will wind up teaching you. But then why don't these firms just hire high school grads?

The answer is skills and experience. I wrote A LOT of essays in college. Like maybe five per class/quarter (for three classes for twelve quarters = maybe 180 essays?) Believe it or not, they made me a better programmer. Programming requires the same kind of logical thinking that you use to make an argument in a Literature essay, and the same communicative ability that one needs to properly name classes/functions, write useful documentation, etc.

I'm not the only one who feels this way. I went to school with a guy who co-founded the Django framework (the dominant framework used to make websites in Python). He was a Literature major also. Another talented programmer on my team was a Chinese Literature major, another was formerly a PhD in Biology, and another (the best junior engineer I've ever known) had a major in Criminology. I could keep going but you get the idea.

The point is, a good liberal arts education provides you with experience and skills that are valuable in many "knowledge worker" professions ... even if the actual liberal arts knowledge is only good for finding obscure references in shows like Lost or the Librarians [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes my undergrad in creative writing is garbage unless u wanna go do an MFA in creative writing which is basically piling radioactive waste onto a garbage bin and calling it Art. I was smart enough to pull out of that nose dive and crash my plane into the Towers of Private business then use my cunning communication skills to sell millions of dollars worth of self help programs to the desperate plebeian masses who believe in magic

That's basically best case scenario for an arts degree. Ban them from higher education, pump out more useful degrees, and let the so called artists starve, break under the yoke of capitalism, or get lucky and succeed

As a forum user you get excellent value out of your creative ranting degree!