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Old 12-26-2017, 02:52 PM
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Ths glory that would unfold if they removed the 2 fracker rule. You'd have 200 neckbeards huddled in Vulaks room during his window and they'd keep the 6 Drakes down, all while spam clicking Vulak's spawn point. Send out some DA runners to clear paths to Lords and Ladies as they spawn and single pull dragons back onto the bridge to kill them.

At least then the entrance may be safe.
I think the no camping out on bosses rule has to stay. The meta shouldn't be who has the best autofire macro and/or ping.
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:07 PM
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The tracker FTE rule would have barely made sense in Kunark let alone Velious.
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I think the no camping out on bosses rule has to stay.
It's the same rule, and it made plenty of sense during Kunark.
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:39 PM
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It's the same rule, and it made plenty of sense during Kunark.
How would it have made sense? You can't even exp in a zone like Sebilis or KC while a boss is in window or your guild is permanently DQed when it pops? Even if you all zone out and join the raid starting at the zone line? What new player is going to intuitively understand this?

No, it was stupid. It was a hacked around way of solving a problem. The problem being that variance on a per-mob basis was a bad design idea from the outset, and there weren't programmatic ways of solving the issue.

The tracker rule and no camping on bosses aren't the same rule. You could have zero trackers allowed and force players back to the zone in upon repop. Tracking shouldn't even be a thing, as its equivalent to socking.
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:54 PM
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The tracker rule and no camping on bosses aren't the same rule.
It is, literally, the same rule.

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Guilds may not have any more than two representatives present at a raid spawn location.
via raid.php

GMs have just further clarified this rule to expand what a raid spawn location is to basically everything except the zoneline. Through Rogean's clarification, and suspensions to BDA and Lord Bob
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Old 12-26-2017, 04:58 PM
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It is, literally, the same rule.



via raid.php

GMs have just further clarified this rule to expand what a raid spawn location is to basically everything except the zoneline. Through Rogean's clarification, and suspensions to BDA and Lord Bob
I'm saying you can have a 'no camping on bosses' rule and not allow trackers. Is that hard to understand?

Regardless none of this would exist with variance eliminated in place of quakes & automated succor. No reason not to, aside from the minor disruption to players in the zone. But with advance warning I don't see it as a big deal. Most players on quake are going to be doing something other than exping even in a casual guild.
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