Activists Hold Funeral For Frozen Chicken In Store

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But yeah I eat pizza fairly often, just with non-dairy cheese. It's only cruel to my waistline, really.

I know the feeling. ^

I respect you for your personal ethics and knowledge on the topic.

I just wonder how many people are not more active, perhaps it's just easier to put heads in sand and not know the truth?

Maybe it's too painful for those who are ultra empathetic to the plight of the animals?

Perhaps it seems too impractical and too big an impossibility to get away from the economics and reality of how modern man farms animals for meat and other animal based products?

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Lhancelot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe it's too painful for those who are ultra empathetic to the plight of the animals?

Just imagine how painful it is for the animals!

Obviously activism isn't for everyone, but we can and should all make better choices. The hopelessness you describe is understandable, but huge changes can still occur within our society. I mean, here in America women have barely held the right to vote for a hundred years. Humans were considered property just fifty years before that. As civilization evolves it does so to continue itself into the future, same as any organism. And the future is going to be kinder all around--else it ain't gonna come, at all.

[Lojik]

The thing is that logic, reason, and numbers don't convince people, even intelligent people. It's just the same dumb shit that does convince people: what are my friends doing, what are other people my age/race/gender/nationality doing, what does soandso authority figure who i like think of said subject, how can i rationalize my past behavior or reconcile it with my other beliefs, etc. When you approach people directly with an opposing viewpoint and valid reasons you're going to get rebuffed. It's all about going about it in an indirect way and making the other person(s) feel like they figured it out on their own.

Meatatarian society (which I am guilty in participating in) will probably die off at some point since it's just not sustainable, the only question is how bad will the effects be on the environment before anything meaninful changes.

Also nutritional science is very young in relation to how old human society is, and what is considered good nutrition v. bad nutrition changes depending on the source. In 100 years when we have a lot more data to work with on long term health effects and nutritional sources I think we'll get a better view of what, exactly, would be an ideal human diet. Maybe in like 10-20 years google can start collecting data on exact environmental conditions for people as they develop, and better measurements on what foods are being consumed to allow better regressional type analysis.