How Blood Guard does Lodi

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

After skimming through the first few pages of this thread, I'm going to have to side with the AG folks. That was a real scummy move BG. This appears to be one of those cases where you're not technically in the wrong, but still acted like a bunch of assholes. Will definitely remember this is how BG rolls when I encounter your members since the guild appears to support this sort of stuff.

BG attacked a mob, got KS'ed, and petitioned. Something that AG does on the regular.
Sirken answered with a "no loot for anyone ruling", commpletely fair for both parties involved instead of potential bans/whatever, in my opinion. Both parties acted sketchy, both parties got denied loot.

thats all that happened here untill OP brought it to RNF, trashing an entire guild for the actions of 3 of its members, then BG showed up to shine a light on his bullshit. Even the original BG member that has admitted to being there admits it was a dickish move. I think what were all waiting for is OP to admit that hes already admitted to KS'ing intentionally, and that that was also a dickish move, especially when hes claimed, multiple times, to not even have needed the gnoll pet.

[Loke]

Originally Posted by Dreenk317 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BG attacked a mob, got KS'ed, and petitioned. Something that AG does on the regular.
Sirken answered with a "no loot for anyone ruling", commpletely fair for both parties involved instead of potential bans/whatever, in my opinion. Both parties acted sketchy, both parties got denied loot.

thats all that happened here untill OP brought it to RNF, trashing an entire guild for the actions of 3 of its members, then BG showed up to shine a light on his bullshit. Even the original BG member that has admitted to being there admits it was a dickish move. I think what were all waiting for is OP to admit that hes already admitted to KS'ing intentionally, and that that was also a dickish move, especially when hes claimed, multiple times, to not even have needed the gnoll pet.

You're leaving out the part where they only attacked that mob with the explicit intent to block the other individuals from using it. Like I said, maybe technically okay by the server rules, but a scummy way to act imo. If you show up and see some has beat you, and your first thought it "how can I ruin this for them", you're an asshole. Sorry. Just be thankful the only consequence from this appears to be some of us on the server have a lower opinion of BG than we did before. Although to be fair, I'd never heard of BG, so didn't have much of an opinion to begin with.

[LiQuid]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're leaving out the part where they only attacked that mob with the explicit intent to block the other individuals from using it. Like I said, maybe technically okay by the server rules, but a scummy way to act imo. If you show up and see some has beat you, and your first thought it "how can I ruin this for them", you're an asshole. Sorry. Just be thankful the only consequence from this appears to be some of us on the server have a lower opinion of BG than we did before. Although to be fair, I'd never heard of BG, so didn't have much of an opinion to begin with.

Well that kind of diminishes the value of you blacklisting us now doesn't it?

[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're leaving out the part where they only attacked that mob with the explicit intent to block the other individuals from using it. Like I said, maybe technically okay by the server rules, but a scummy way to act imo. If you show up and see some has beat you, and your first thought it "how can I ruin this for them", you're an asshole. Sorry. Just be thankful the only consequence from this appears to be some of us on the server have a lower opinion of BG than we did before. Although to be fair, I'd never heard of BG, so didn't have much of an opinion to begin with.

[Sun Jul 17 22:50:11 2016] You told Eivy, 'I saw you there. I knew you were attempting to get the spawn - but you were not paying attention at the critical moment. This is a burden that is upon the camper. Camping a spawn comes with responsibilities'

^^ thats the OP doing the EXACT same thing to someone else over a fishbone earring.

OP in his opening statement:

Originally Posted by Droog007 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1. Show up late to find Lodizal engaged and in the process of being debuffed.
2. Correctly guess that the SHM/ENC duo intends to to charm Grizlin Bloodfang.
3. Pretend to be "camping" Grizlin Bloodfang, even though you've just arrived in the zone and Grizlin is currently dead.
4. Petition the staff for a KS on Grizlin Bloodfang
5. After staff basically says everyone did a wrong thing, say once again, "it was the only legal course we had to get a chance at lodi."

How about this: Camp the damn mob. Do your own work. When you find someone beat you to the punch, wait at a respectable distance while they take their chance or MOVE THE FUCK ON. Dicks moves are dick moves, "legal" or not.

so, this is literally a case of OP (on the left in this image) yelling at BG Trio, on the right.
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[Loke]

First, I'm not defending OP, he could very well be a giant asshole as well, but in this particular instance, BG were the ones who showed up, realized they were beat, and decided to be scum bags and rule lawyer over the pet mob. Condemning BGs actions are not the same as condoning OP's.

Second, I never said I was blacklisting them, just that I'd remember they're not above these sort of tactics, and so I shouldn't feel bad about treating them in kind. I've been around p99 long enough that outside raiding (and even sometimes raiding) I try to remain friendly and chill when interacting with random people. I'd never steamroll casual players or try to rule lawyer them out of a camp/mob. In the past maybe I would have, but being older and wiser, I just want to log on and enjoy the game with friends these days. All I was saying was that unlike most casual players, I likely won't give BG members the benefit of the doubt, since they've shown they're completely okay with this sort of stuff. I admittedly didn't read the whole thread, but also didn't see any BG leadership denouncing the tactics used.

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[Dreenk317]

Originally Posted by Loke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

First, I'm not defending OP, he could very well be a giant asshole as well, but in this particular instance, BG were the ones who showed up, realized they were beat, and decided to be scum bags and rule lawyer over the pet mob. Condemning BGs actions are not the same as condoning OP's.

Second, I never said I was blacklisting them, just that I'd remember they're not above these sort of tactics, and so I shouldn't feel bad about treating them in kind. I've been around p99 long enough that outside raiding (and even sometimes raiding) I try to remain friendly and chill when interacting with random people. I'd never steamroll casual players or try to rule lawyer them out of a camp/mob. In the past maybe I would have, but being older and wiser, I just want to log on and enjoy the game with friends these days. All I was saying was that unlike most casual players, I likely won't give BG members the benefit of the doubt, since they've shown they're completely okay with this sort of stuff. I admittedly didn't read the whole thread, but also didn't see any BG leadership denouncing the tactics used.

You also didnt see BG leadership lying or claiming to have not known the rules, or trying to "un-admit" things, or pretending there above this sort of thing when they themselves have done the exact same sort of behaviour, if not worse. You also didnt see BG leadership bring this to RNF, they just showed up here after AG leadership brought it here.

Just saying. Droog admitted he is an officer of AG and apparently has been for years....Droog brought all this here, Droog admittedly "even if he has un-admitted it" broke the rules, BG just did something that was a dick move.