Scout Roll Agreement 2017

[Legidias]

Also disagree with forcing loot. As stated in other thread, I personally have never even won a roll but I believe rolling = ownership of mob, and not designated loot. People win to MQ or give to guild, other person can win next time for themselves / bring their own buddies. As long as someone is committing the time / effort to get there and wait / roll, they have a fair shot at rolling for OWNERSHIP of mob / loot meaning they can do with it as they will.

Also, player made rules are only for people who agreed to it. Technically if someone didnt roll and decided to clickfest (as has happened), they would be in the right (legally, not morally) to ignore rolls altogether. Just stating on forum doesnt work. Even OOCing in WW prior to roll doesnt work, as they can just ooc "I do not agree to roll." and then be in the clear to clickfest. If they rolled and THEN click fest, there should be immediate suspension / ban, but they need to agree to roll in the first place. There needs to be something to solve this, but I have no solution to this.

[Bizban]

Cant approve allowing 1 person to show up to something without there own force to kill a mob and having a chance of winning a best in slot piece of gear ./100% disagree

[Lojik]

Have to lol at the people fighting hard to allow other people to loot tools so they can sell MQ's / roll for friends. They should probably implement some nonclassic code that makes scout charisa give you back a no drop container that you have to combine the disc in. If nothing else it would cut down on /petitions

[Legidias]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, player made rules are only for people who agreed to it. Technically if someone didnt roll and decided to clickfest (as has happened), they would be in the right (legally, not morally) to ignore rolls altogether. Just stating on forum doesnt work. Even OOCing in WW prior to roll doesnt work, as they can just ooc "I do not agree to roll." and then be in the clear to clickfest. If they rolled and THEN click fest, there should be immediate suspension / ban, but they need to agree to roll in the first place.

Player made agreements only work when everyone agrees. What you do mean the rules """weve""" agreed to. I could (potentially) hop in and then say /ooc Random 2000 winner can do w/e they want with loot, and then anyone who rolls 2000 would be along my ruleset EVEN if you ooc /random 1000 winner = looter. It would just turn into clickfest at that point which no one wants.

The point of discussing this is to come to a real conclusion not just I LIKE IT MY WAY AND WAAAAHHH ILL IGNORE ANY OTHER OPINIONS.

Get over your entitlement, anyone who is rolling that has tools has put in time / effort and has earned a right to roll and do what they want with loot.

(Also, lol @ "allowing" any mob in game to be farmed or not)

[Kesselring]

Originally Posted by Legidias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also disagree with forcing loot. As stated in other thread, I personally have never even won a roll but I believe rolling = ownership of mob, and not designated loot. People win to MQ or give to guild, other person can win next time for themselves / bring their own buddies. As long as someone is committing the time / effort to get there and wait / roll, they have a fair shot at rolling for OWNERSHIP of mob / loot meaning they can do with it as they will.

Also, player made rules are only for people who agreed to it. Technically if someone didnt roll and decided to clickfest (as has happened), they would be in the right (legally, not morally) to ignore rolls altogether. Just stating on forum doesnt work. Even OOCing in WW prior to roll doesnt work, as they can just ooc "I do not agree to roll." and then be in the clear to clickfest. If they rolled and THEN click fest, there should be immediate suspension / ban, but they need to agree to roll in the first place. There needs to be something to solve this, but I have no solution to this.

If you didnt have BoB/Talisman and you were on ur first char and in a guild that eeryone needed those items and had no motivation to roll for others before themselves would you still say the same thing?