5k Bounty for Classic Research (Are You a Wayback Machine Pro?)

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://mboards.eqtraders.com/eq/show...Tanker-handout

If I'm understanding this right, here would be some values to play with...

Pass #1 values:
Successful Combine w/ 255 wisdom, tradeskill difficulty = 2:
((240 / (2 * 1)) / 10 = 12% chance for skill up

Successful Combine w/ 255 wisdom, tradeskill difficulty = 4:
((240 / (4 * 1)) / 10 = 6% chance for skill up

Failed Combine w/ 255 wisdom, tradeskill difficulty = 2:
((240 / (2 * 2)) / 10 = 6% chance for skill up

Failed Combine w/ 255 wisdom, tradeskill difficulty = 4:
((240 / (4 * 2)) / 10 = 3% chance for skill up

Now mind you that is 255 wisdom factored in (255 - 15 deduction = 240). And that is just the FIRST PASS to succeed. On the second pass, if your skill is 190+ you have a flat 5% chance to skill up.

That is like saying if you could get a skill up if you roll an 880+ on a /rand 1000, but then need to roll 950+ on your second roll.

No wonder tradeskills are so brutal in classic.

Also may show some reasons why you think a successful combine is the same skill up percentage as a failed combine. If your tradeskill difficulty level was 4 on one recipe and 2 on a different recipe, the skill-up chances would be the same (meaning a success on the level 4 skill would give same probability as a failure on the level 2 skill).

Something I admit doesn't 'feel' right with Pass #1 being a general formula for all levels. Lower level combines tend to increase skill rather quickly, having just a 12% max chance with 255 wisdom seems off, no one has that at noob levels. Perhaps up to a certain skill you only had to pass 1 of the 2 formulas, but after 190 you need to pass both?