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Holy crap, I give you the exact reason you are wrong, with examples/identical analogies and you retort, "____ is grammatically correct, derp derp me right you wrong" with NO evidence, and no appeal to actual rules of grammar. Good grief... ok one more example: Potus says, "I flew Chicago" instead of "I flew to Chicago". EXACT SAME THING. You have no idea about verb transitivity. "I graduated from college" or "I was graduated from college" are both correct. The college graduates students, the students do NOT graduate the college. However, like I said, I sort of understand how you make these mistakes, the analytical power required to correctly understand verb forms and combining them with prepositions requires a great fundamental grasp of grammar. I was always decent at grammar, but becoming fluent in a foreign language (French), forced me to master grammar, or else I would have gotten zeros on all those French tests on the past pluperfect subjunctive. I wanted to argue without google (just brainpower), but since you have no FUNDAMENTAL grasp of grammar and no attention span (you sound like a modern child to me), I googled something for you... take a look: http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com...ated-from.aspx BOOOM and THAT'S THE GAME... omg it says everything I have been teaching you this whole time... a direct quote from the link is: "So listen closely: If you go around saying you graduated college, you sound illiterate. The correct way to say it is that you graduated FROM college. Here's why..." I earlier suggested you stop to save face... apparently you are not just illogical, you don't take advice very well either. Also, the fact that you argue who coined a term as if it means something significant? Is that what you mean? I still cannot figure out exactly what your point on coining terms is... what is it? Newton did not call it "Newton's Law", Descartes did not call it the "Cartesian Coordinate System", and Freud did not call it "Freudian Analysis". People who are forgotten with the times are the ones who name the greats' creations. Even in the soft sciences. I like the soft sciences, I like the humanities, I like grammar. Don't try to label me as an asperger afflicted scientist, just because I pointed out where you were being preachy and hypocritical. I love it when people call me out on dumb stuff I do, keeps me honest. Remember, I pointed out what you were saying wrong because you were being snooty to others about being wrong while making mistakes. Judge not lest you be judged. Hoping you now might stop, in complete sincerity, I am extending an olive branch: want to kill some mobs in Norrath together? The group chat would at least be exciting! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I am serious; what level characters you playing at the moment, I would love to group with you, so you get to know the real (less argumentative) me. If not, that is cool, but either way, I am done with this thread, just a waste of time at this point. | |||
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from your webster.com link: "In the 19th century the transitive sense (1a) was prescribed; the intransitive <I graduated from college> was condemned. The intransitive prevailed nonetheless, and today it is the sense likely to be prescribed and the newer transitive sense (1b) <she graduated high school> the one condemned. All three are standard. The intransitive is currently the most common, the new transitive the least common." from YOUR dictionary.reference.com link: "In the sense “to receive a degree or diploma” graduate followed by from is the most common construction today: Her daughter graduated from Yale in 1981. The passive form was graduated from, formerly insisted upon as the only correct pattern, has decreased in use and occurs infrequently today: My husband was graduated from West Point last year. Even though it is condemned by some as nonstandard, the use of graduate as a transitive verb meaning “to receive a degree or diploma from” is increasing in frequency in both speech and writing: The twins graduated high school in 1974." These pieces of evidence YOU POSTED, are implicitly saying (although crystal clear), "It's still not correct, and only morons who can't grasp the old versions use it, but since dictionaries evolve we sorta gotta accept it." You fail at reading comprehension, very very badly. Standard does not mean correct. Does your dictionary have lol, omg, and gtfo? All real words now huh? Ever play scrabble? Isn't Homer Simpson's "doh" technically "a word" now. Just because you use dumbed-down language doesn't make it any more correct than what is and ain't real. See anyone can sound like a moron under your rule set. For this whole thread you are #14 and I am #21: [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Way to embarrass yourself horribly, then get mentally dominated. Anyone got the Willy Wonka "You lose, good day sir!" .gif? I know my posts are long and well thought out (this shit takes me under 5 min a pop). I am getting tired running circles around your troglodytic brain. My last offering of an olive branch was more like begging you to sign a formal surrender. But I am serious, wanna play some EQ together? I enjoy your ability to keep trying, despite all odds, logic, and mental resistance pushing against you. No joke though, we should toast some mobs. Well? What do you say? | |||
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Last edited by Toehammer; 04-07-2011 at 01:26 AM..
Reason: missed a quotation somewhere!
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I like how you keep on coming back, and now that you've seen that you're wrong you post some stupid gif. Get over it, you lost. | |||
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Both old versions are accepted... read YOUR links. Someday, maybe someday, you will proclaim "I graduated college" and it will be accepted. In the future your like omg totally version could be totally cool and accepted amirite? ttyl rofl WTB Potus Nonsense Dictionary I have never seen someone more wrong in my whole life. I am sorry Potus, the argument has lost its luster. I thought there was a glimmer, a slight chance you might actually admit you need to learn something and embrace self-improvement. Being wrong is one of the best ways to learn. Embrace it. Never posting near you again, /tear. | ||||
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You should really stop posting but you'll come back again because you think there's some semblance of face left to save. | |||
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I don't know who said what, but is someone really trying to claim the phrase "you should try graduating it." is grammatically correct.
Only way that would make sense is if the person you are talking to is the principal of a school and the word "it" represents a person. | ||
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What the hell does linguistics have to do with this thread anyway...
Potus tried to change the subject to whatever he teaches in public middle school (govt history?) to make himself look smart. Toehammer responds trying to change the subject to linguistics. Both were completely irrelevant to thread. | ||
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