Has a second boxing server ever been proposed/considered?

[Daldaen]

I still fail to see how 2 boxing is disallowed but selling accounts for platinum is allowed.

[nilbog]

Well I've answered this far too many times to do it again. A forum search for 'boxing', by me, should yield all types of results.

Daldaen, your argument(?) makes no sense. Completely unrelated topics.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well I've answered this far too many times to do it again. A forum search for 'boxing', by me, should yield all types of results.

Daldaen, your argument(?) makes no sense. Completely unrelated topics.

Not related but both against the 'play as a community' mentality. You want people to interact with others but selling characters for plat just encourages people to PL their friends alt account to 50 and sell it.

[Asher]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not related but both against the 'play as a community' mentality. You want people to interact with others but selling characters for plat just encourages people to PL their friends alt account to 50 and sell it.

One also eats up a lot more server resources. ie: Costs GMs more money and the other has no adverse affect.

[Lazortag]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not related but both against the 'play as a community' mentality. You want people to interact with others but selling characters for plat just encourages people to PL their friends alt account to 50 and sell it.

It's not just an issue of forced interaction - people are allowed to solo if they want after all. The issue is about actively impeding the ability of others to group where they want, not to mention utterly destroying the raid scene. I know that the raid scene already isn't perfect, but imagine how silly it would be if guilds could legitimately six-box on raids.

As for making another server for boxers, if the devs feel it's not worth their time, that's enough of a reason not to support it.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Lazortag [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not just an issue of forced interaction - people are allowed to solo if they want after all. The issue is about actively impeding the ability of others to group where they want, not to mention utterly destroying the raid scene. I know that the raid scene already isn't perfect, but imagine how silly it would be if guilds could legitimately six-box on raids.

As for making another server for boxers, if the devs feel it's not worth their time, that's enough of a reason not to support it.

Fair, just limit to 2 box then? 6 boxing is lame everywhere, when you have a self sufficient group and can poopsock the most desired camps by yourself. But I don't think a 2 box of 2 level 60s could hold crypt or disco or myncoids or any of the desired camps from Kunark that a solo class can't already.

[saucer]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair, just limit to 2 box then? 6 boxing is lame everywhere, when you have a self sufficient group and can poopsock the most desired camps by yourself. But I don't think a 2 box of 2 level 60s could hold crypt or disco or myncoids or any of the desired camps from Kunark that a solo class can't already.

How about we just keep it at 1 box per person and call it a day?

[Rasah]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fair, just limit to 2 box then? 6 boxing is lame everywhere, when you have a self sufficient group and can poopsock the most desired camps by yourself. But I don't think a 2 box of 2 level 60s could hold crypt or disco or myncoids or any of the desired camps from Kunark that a solo class can't already.

Think of all of the boring camps that would be perma-locked. You could drop your 2nd box on the AC spawn point, and lock it up forever. You wouldn't do this if you only had 1 box, because you aren't really playing the game, and that would get boring. But you could plop a 50 mage on it, and never move.

Or the Bilge spawn. Or one of the VP key mobs. Or any greenie named camp. You get the idea.

[toddfx]

Originally Posted by Rasah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think of all of the boring camps that would be perma-locked. You could drop your 2nd box on the AC spawn point, and lock it up forever. You wouldn't do this if you only had 1 box, because you aren't really playing the game, and that would get boring. But you could plop a 50 mage on it, and never move.

Or the Bilge spawn. Or one of the VP key mobs. Or any greenie named camp. You get the idea.

This.

Aside from it being the wishes of the devs, this is the best argument against two-boxing i've seen yet. It would be impossible to compete against, essentially making boxing a REQUIREMENT to hold any rare camps. That would be pretty ridiculous, considering all the poop socking an that already goes on.

[Tale]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Daldaen, your argument(?) makes no sense. Completely unrelated topics.

I thought he had a point. To me, boxing, RMT and selling accounts are evils spawned by classic EverQuest. They're related in their undesirability.

A quick Google search reveals a black market in real-world cash for P1999 plat. It looks like accounts are being sold to convert the plat to cash, and/or bought with purchased plat. Some of the major traders look a lot like RMT businesses and probably are. We see the inflationary effects on the server.

But I'm sure you're well aware of this. You've probably decided the status quo is acceptable. And really, this is how it was in classic anyway (RMT evolved during EverQuest's heyday). I'm sure the server is full of the kind of losers who think buying plat is necessary.

You're doing an amazing job with everything. Don't get me wrong.