Which is the more active class, Enchanter or Bard / How to play them?

[skarlorn]

Tons of spell swapping for an enchanter, especially if you don't have a goblin ghaz ring. You dont' "sit back and chill" when you have a pet, because that's a one way trip to Death-Town. If you are in a group, your lowest possible effort is throwing out Cs and Hastes. SOmetimes you'll have to mez, so it's important you are at least watching on a second screen. But if you are a good group member, you'll have a charmed pet which will be a constant drain on your mana/putting your life in danger, so you'll need to be very active.

Bards are similar in a group because you could be a real shitter an djust play 1 song, or you could twist a couple of songs and autoattack. But the best bards are fucking insane, they are singing a song while they play another on the flute and then also soloing led zeppelin stairway to heaven while they dive into the entrance of mistmoore castle and come out with a train of 20 vampire assassins who they are AE snaring and then kiting around in a circle on the CE plateau, all while still feeding mana to their hungry casters, then when they see the cleric mob CHing itsefl they'll hit it with a quick mezz to interrupt the cast, and then they'll charm a mob out of the pack and use it to attack another mob in the pack and they're still running in circles kiting 4 other zombie vampire lords while playing the flute and the fiddle and singing bohemian rhapsody but OH SHIT the tank has bad posiitioning and the rogues are pushing that gargoyle over the ledge and they're gonna fall off so you use your mezz pushback effec to save the day and you're an incredible god running in circles kiting 2 mobs left your wrist burns with the flame of carpal tunnel but the exp flows in so fast you've got a huge erection and you whip it out and start tapping keys with it to keep up the song twisting and then you dive back into mistmoore castle to get more bad guys


so i would say bard has a propensity for more activity

[Swish]

Originally Posted by skarlorn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tons of spell swapping for an enchanter, especially if you don't have a goblin ghaz ring. ...

Roll dark elf and remove the need to own one, my biggest mistake on red and I made one on blue to correct it <3 Sure it's not 100% effective but it works enough of the time that I'm happy to play the lottery with it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally I find a bard is more active than an enchanter, I think the two classes are the only ones I have on both servers (and cleric). Bards don't just have to do what the enchanter is doing in terms of mezzing, slowing, charming, etc... but they have to keep pace with twisting songs during combat, pull where necessary, and because of charm's short duration find ways of convincing the group which NPC is the pet at a given moment (sit works as well as them not being able to do damage to it on blue server, but RIP the unclassic /pet feign, was a great indicator).

Bards are more active and harder than enchanters, there I said it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Aalderon Crystafire]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bards are more active and harder than enchanters, there I said it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel this -- assuming you're a quality Bard.

Typically I don't think of leveling/XPing as fun but those times at the CoM moat where I would be the main tank, puller and crowd control to keep the group going when we couldn't find replacements were a blast. When you're engaged you're not staring at the XP bar every minute and it all goes by much faster.

I will note that as an untwinked Bard I need a cleric if I'm going to tank -- Shamen or Druids just won't do. I really enjoy pulling most of all but unfortunately we get beat out by the Monk later on in this department.... Bards really should've had feign death in classic for this reason... plus... theater....acting...faking death.... yeah.

The class really gets a bad reputation because of all the swarmturd faux-Bards that were out there who get to 50+ without ever really playing the class.

All that being said... I have the most respect for Enchanters in groups because of crowd control which requires the most cursor movement and therefore the most focus. If I have an Enchanter in my group their pet is always my 'previous target' so I can can [~] + [Mouse 4] + [~] again to target/mez it before it even gets a hit off on them and get right back to main target . The duration is short enough that it can get back into action relatively quick after they recharm.