Raiding Guild Behavior

[Erati]

Originally Posted by Endonde [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This may be true for some uninformed individuals, but there are plenty of people who dislike you because you act like complete scumbags. You guys have an unfortunate habit of willingly breaking the rules, and then when caught and/or called out about doing so you play the victim instead of owning up to your mistakes.

See this post as a perfect example.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=246016


I agree that tracking, and poopsocking will always exist without a massive ruleset overhaul, but I think we've seen in the past from other top guilds, that you can be a top guild on the server while still attempting to make the server a better place for all players, I haven't seen that from you guys yet.

That Nagafen was over a year ago and thats what you point to?

Cmon you are better than that, you know this server is a "what have you done lately" place. Assuming nothing was learned gained from the guilds first suspension is a bit audacious dont you think?

AW is not the same guild that ran over the "little guys" at Nagafen. In fact, we have probably only killed him 2-3 times in the last year since that raid ban. That alone shows AW is not only capable of change and learning but it pretty much turns your post into an angry misinformed one that I dont really understand the point you were making.

All I was saying was A/A is bad bc we are willing to track, something no one wants to do. The fact we continue to track mobs means others have to do the same (hence the "shit raid scene") or they have to figure out other things to do that dont involve the practice.

Socking/tracking are what the current ruleset force you to do if you want FTE on a mob. "First" being the key word in FTE hence why people track/sock.

[Endonde]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That Nagafen was over a year ago and thats what you point to?

Cmon you are better than that, you know this server is a "what have you done lately" place. Assuming nothing was learned gained from the guilds first suspension is a bit audacious dont you think?

AW is not the same guild that ran over the "little guys" at Nagafen. In fact, we have probably only killed him 2-3 times in the last year since that raid ban. That alone shows AW is not only capable of change and learning but it pretty much turns your post into an angry misinformed one that I dont really understand the point you were making.

All I was saying was A/A is bad bc we are willing to track, something no one wants to do. The fact we continue to track mobs means others have to do the same (hence the "shit raid scene") or they have to figure out other things to do that dont involve the practice.

Socking/tracking are what the current ruleset force you to do if you want FTE on a mob. First being the key word in FTE hence why people track/sock.

The Nagafen suspension although it may be old is just the perfect example because it proves my point in one nicely consolidated post.

Here is another example,

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=261343

Solid points for owning up to your mistake.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...3&postcount=26

Annnnnnd then you instantly try to find a way to blame your fuck up on the other guild petitioning you too much.


Your guild is all over RnF right now trying to spin your current suspension as Aftermath's fault somehow.

I like you as a person Eratani but your guilds attitude as a whole is pretty awful, you pretend you can do no wrong, while constantly getting caught doing wrong.

[Troxx]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That Nagafen was over a year ago and thats what you point to?

9 months ago (June 2016) was over a year ago?

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Troxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

9 months ago (June 2016) was over a year ago?

Not to mention the fact that this behavior continues over such a long course of time is pretty damning in itself.

[stonez138]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That Nagafen was over a year ago and thats what you point to?

Cmon you are better than that, you know this server is a "what have you done lately" place. Assuming nothing was learned gained from the guilds first suspension is a bit audacious dont you think?

AW is not the same guild that ran over the "little guys" at Nagafen. In fact, we have probably only killed him 2-3 times in the last year since that raid ban. That alone shows AW is not only capable of change and learning but it pretty much turns your post into an angry misinformed one that I dont really understand the point you were making.

All I was saying was A/A is bad bc we are willing to track, something no one wants to do. The fact we continue to track mobs means others have to do the same (hence the "shit raid scene") or they have to figure out other things to do that dont involve the practice.

Socking/tracking are what the current ruleset force you to do if you want FTE on a mob. "First" being the key word in FTE hence why people track/sock.

This guy really, really, really, wants to believe he's one of the good guys.