ninja looting does not mean you make the rules

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Lickum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If the accusations are correct, what an asshole. This shouldnt be thrown to the wayside, a GM should strip it from him and suspend him to send a clear message it wont be tolerated.

Its not a suspendable offense according to the server rules. This is a case where you just announce it, the guy becomes a pariah, and you move on. There is nothing you can do about it except do your best to ensure he never groups with anyone again. Awfully difficult to ninja something solo.

[Ledzepp02]

This belongs in RnF, also, several of your accusations are horribly fabricated as to what actually happened. I'll start with /ran 99 100 does not count as a roll, every other piece of gear for the previous 10 hours in that group was /randomed and given to people that could use it, mostly people inside the zone at other camps.
He joined in the last hour or two and failed to pay attention/understand/question how that was occurring the entire night. The rest has already been thoroughly explained to the people involved. Good night.

[FearsEdge]

I am not necessarily arguing that GMs do anything about it. I am simply saying that I don't want to group with soemone like that. And no one else probably does. I would hope that his guild (Fusion) would not want someone with their guild tag just being a blatant ninja-looting jerk in the name of giving it to someone in the guild who was not there. I would hope that they would not tolerate someone making them look bad, and I would hope people who feel the same way I do would decide to not group with soemone who acts like that in the future.

[FearsEdge]

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This belongs in RnF, also, several of your accusations are horribly fabricated as to what actually happened. I'll start with /ran 99 100 does not count as a roll

He randomed 0 100. I was there.

and when you brought it up there, at least 2 others pointed out that they saw a fair 99 on a random 0 100

[Chucck]

Originally Posted by FearsEdge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I argued with him for awhile until he logged off, he tried to say that since Goragu didnt random 100 right away (he jokingly randomed 100 100, which is obviously not a real roll, and he was joking because he thought he should get it in the first place, because no one else could use). When he actually DID random 100 a few minutes later when it became apparent that this guy had decided he wasn't giving it up because Goragu needed it, he won with a 99. I was watching. But he claimed he didn't actually win, since he didn't do it earlier.

Every time one of his ad hoc reasons for deciding who would get it(which again, he was only in the position to do because he ninja looted) was defeated he had another one.

I would like him to be here to defend himself, but he logged off when I kept repeating that Goragu, in fact, won the roll he shouldn't have had to roll in the first place.

Once again, that is your opinion on how loot should go. Need before greed as some people say. Doesn't mean that thats how it actually is unless agreed upon in a PUG ahead of time.

[FearsEdge]

Originally Posted by Chucck [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Once again, that is your opinion on how loot should go. Need before greed as some people say. Doesn't mean that thats how it actually is unless agreed upon in a PUG ahead of time.

Goragu said that when he was there, it was a nbg group in practice, but no one actually explained explicitly how the loot was divided. I don't know, but I did see them random several times on things. He did in fact win the random roll, I know that much.

[Mardur]

Ledzepp has been a complete cock to everyone in KC so I can believe him ninja looting some warrior's well deserved phats.

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Ledzepp02 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

He joined in the last hour or two and failed to pay attention/understand/question how that was occurring the entire night.

So you had a tank in your group for one to two hours, and an upgrade for him (and only him, as it sounds) drops and you keep it to give to someone who was not even in the group? That doesn't make much sense.

[FearsEdge]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey I can make up lies too when I lose the roll on loot

Screenshots or didn't happen

You can make up lies too, and I could be lying, but I am not. I hope he has screenshots and posts them. Until then, you can believe me or not, but I am telling you what I saw.

[Scroll]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you had a tank in your group for one to two hours, and an upgrade for him (and only him, as it sounds) drops and you keep it to give to someone who was not even in the group? That doesn't make much sense.

Agreed. We need a forum 'Douchebag' icon to apply to people like Ledzepp.