@Sirken "a fair and legitimate chance at that target"

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

raid scene fixes have been proposed ad nauseam, there will be zero changes, you are wasting your time and energy

The only change they need to make is to implement the one thing that all raiding guilds agree is the best way to go: full variance earthquakes. Nobody cries during an earthquake and everyone has fun. Instead of dealing with raid petitions all week long, it's one day a week, though most petitions simply wouldn't happen. It's as close to classic as they can get. What reason could there be to not make this a thing?

[Barcelona]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

raid scene fixes have been proposed ad nauseam, there will be zero changes, you are wasting your time and energy

Qani could learn a lot from Chest. I think you are wasting your time. Maybe you should watch some of Sirkens old streams, may as well learn some of the server history if your willing to waste your time so much.

[Tankdan]

Bring back Class system.

This content is not new any more. No need to hoard all of it.

[kotton05]

Qani you're just hurting your members as much as you're effecting all of us. It's not like you guys would get much of anything without an agreement and once you show an effective force you then diverge to show you deserve more of the pie. currently you are just creating an environment that will work against you re think it.

[arsenalpow]

9 months ago

me bitching about the raid scene two whole years ago

Just go through the raid discussion forum and you can see literally dozens of failed attempts at diplomacy. This has never changed, it will never change. You are literally wasting your time.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

raid scene fixes have been proposed ad nauseam, there will be zero changes, you are wasting your time and energy

Yup. I can't believe I'm agreeing with Chest, but Qani your comments are terribly naive. As mind boggling as it is to most players, the staff like things the way they are now. Nilbog only cares about replicating classic mechanics down to the finest detail and couldn't care less what the players do. Sirken was a big powergamer back in the day and has no sympathy for people who don't want to put in the time. Rogean is in between. It would take 1 hour of work for the staff to institute a GM rotation: ask all guilds to submit proposals, pick one, and tell CSG to administer it with Sirken backing them up. The fact that they have not done this means they prefer the current system.

Furthermore, you somehow think you can reputation grief A/A off the server. How exactly do you plan to do this? A/A's style is optimized for the mechanics and rules of this server. To beat them, you have to play like them: FTE poopsock, zone pull, FRAPS, rule lawyer, etc. And the people you have who are willing to play like this will simply join A/A rather than fighting an uphill battle.

I don't understand why CSG and CSG 2.0 don't move to another server. Word on the street is that Daybreak will release another progression server this summer. It seems their mechanics get more classic with every one. You can raid your heart out in your instance. If you want a slower pace, why not play on TAKP or Project 2002? You can eventually experience Planes of Power and these servers are not currently massively overcrowded. Or keep banging your head against the Project 1999 poopsocking wall until you bleed.

[Skew]

Originally Posted by Fasttimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Velious is way better then kunark. who wanted to coth duck a whole VS window or 3 premade groups cothing for trak for 30sec engages. you wouldnt compete back then. The mobilization was crazy fast then too. you can be quite lazy now with an hour to kill shit. Nothings perfect but racing is indefinitely better then 20 mages per wing like it use to be and definitely more casual friendly then camping at doubles and aary stairs and jav pulling with instant engages, try doing that casually.

Or getting a PD batphone at 3am and that its our fte and mob will be in camp in 90 seconds

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Culkasi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When we kill mobs, any mobs, we roll by population. Its the way CSG does it, and we are very very very open about that whenever we team up with anyone. Infernus accepted this, and has as well in the many times we have killed stuff in the past. They understand the mechanism of RNG over time, and that it all evens out.

So infernus got FTE, stalled until it went ffa when CSG then took FTE and killed it with infernus help? Sounds like breaking the spirit of the rules honestly.

[Culkasi]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So infernus got FTE, stalled until it went ffa when CSG then took FTE and killed it with infernus help? Sounds like breaking the spirit of the rules honestly.

Hm no. Infernus got FTE, realized they couldn't get the bodies to kill, asked CSG to assist, CSG came to assist, we failed the pull a few times, re-FTEed when the hour was up (Aftermath was killing Yelinak at the time I believe) and killed it fairly quickly after.

[Phantasm]

A guild has 1 hour to attempt a target after they have initially FTE'd it. What they do with that 1 hour is theirs. It prevents them from engaging another target so its usually killed quick. What they do with the mob is their business. Any other guild could have taken FTE upon the one hour mark.

Besides, I'm sure no other guild has skirted the spirit of the rules, right?