Why do Awakened members even stay?

[Tayy]

I don't believe I've ever posted in RNF but I'll toss one out.

I understand the thought behind posts like this but all I see is someone trying so hard to kick someone when they're down. It's quite a good reflection of you I suppose.

Just shows how poisonous the competition is and what the raid scene has come to. The lengths some people go to best the other. There has been so many bad decisions and shady things done by almost all of the top raiding guilds that have been on this server. Sometimes intentional, sometimes not.

When I see people go to the lengths of getting a spy recruited to another guild so they can use screenshots of guild chat or forum posts to use in RNF it reminds me what type of people I'm dealing with.

As for the recent suspensions, these were not intentional things done by leadership to screw the server around. These were bad decisions made by members, members that have seen or learned these things from the competition, everyone is guilty of similar doings.

I believe when you're sitting at the top and you're in such a terrible atmosphere to play in you're under the microscope. In turn, Sirken falls under the microscope. I believe when the shenanigans reach a certain point something needs to be done and he got it done.

Awakened is being made an example of. We pushed too hard to be the best, made a few mistakes along the way and are paying the price for everyone in the raid scene here. Should the competition have paid also? Yes but that's not always the point I suppose.

I can say though that if I was in a leadership role and was kicked continuously when I was down by the community like this I would probably say screw it. Fuck all your player agreements and your attempts to resolve issues etc. we will abide by server and GM rules only and petition your complaints. It would make the environment for everyone more toxic but when this is what you're dealing with I wouldn't want to work with any of you but I suppose that's why I'm not in that role.

So to finish with a quote, the time for honouring yourselves will soon be at an end, look forward to getting back to some more healthy competition.

[Boilon]

Originally Posted by Tayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't believe I've ever posted in RNF but I'll toss one out.

I understand the thought behind posts like this but all I see is someone trying so hard to kick someone when they're down. It's quite a good reflection of you I suppose.

Just shows how poisonous the competition is and what the raid scene has come to. The lengths some people go to best the other. There has been so many bad decisions and shady things done by almost all of the top raiding guilds that have been on this server. Sometimes intentional, sometimes not.

When I see people go to the lengths of getting a spy recruited to another guild so they can use screenshots of guild chat or forum posts to use in RNF it reminds me what type of people I'm dealing with.

As for the recent suspensions, these were not intentional things done by leadership to screw the server around. These were bad decisions made by members, members that have seen or learned these things from the competition, everyone is guilty of similar doings.

I believe when you're sitting at the top and you're in such a terrible atmosphere to play in you're under the microscope. In turn, Sirken falls under the microscope. I believe when the shenanigans reach a certain point something needs to be done and he got it done.

Awakened is being made an example of. We pushed too hard to be the best, made a few mistakes along the way and are paying the price for everyone in the raid scene here. Should the competition have paid also? Yes but that's not always the point I suppose.

I can say though that if I was in a leadership role and was kicked continuously when I was down by the community like this I would probably say screw it. Fuck all your player agreements and your attempts to resolve issues etc. we will abide by server and GM rules only and petition your complaints. It would make the environment for everyone more toxic but when this is what you're dealing with I wouldn't want to work with any of you but I suppose that's why I'm not in that role.

So to finish with a quote, the time for honouring yourselves will soon be at an end, look forward to getting back to some more healthy competition.

TLDR: Awakened is salty and will demand vengeance at the cost of the entire server, sums it up?

[Metalopolis]

Originally Posted by Boilon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TLDR: Awakened is salty and will demand vengeance at the cost of the entire server, sums it up?

Brought to you by members of the guild that also woke the Sleeper as a giant "fuck you" to the server, then reformed with the guild name Awakened as a little wink-wink-nudge-nudge to what they'd done.

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Tayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't believe I've ever posted in RNF but I'll toss one out.

I understand the thought behind posts like this but all I see is someone trying so hard to kick someone when they're down. It's quite a good reflection of you I suppose.

Just shows how poisonous the competition is and what the raid scene has come to. The lengths some people go to best the other. There has been so many bad decisions and shady things done by almost all of the top raiding guilds that have been on this server. Sometimes intentional, sometimes not.

When I see people go to the lengths of getting a spy recruited to another guild so they can use screenshots of guild chat or forum posts to use in RNF it reminds me what type of people I'm dealing with.

As for the recent suspensions, these were not intentional things done by leadership to screw the server around. These were bad decisions made by members, members that have seen or learned these things from the competition, everyone is guilty of similar doings.

I believe when you're sitting at the top and you're in such a terrible atmosphere to play in you're under the microscope. In turn, Sirken falls under the microscope. I believe when the shenanigans reach a certain point something needs to be done and he got it done.

Awakened is being made an example of. We pushed too hard to be the best, made a few mistakes along the way and are paying the price for everyone in the raid scene here. Should the competition have paid also? Yes but that's not always the point I suppose.

I can say though that if I was in a leadership role and was kicked continuously when I was down by the community like this I would probably say screw it. Fuck all your player agreements and your attempts to resolve issues etc. we will abide by server and GM rules only and petition your complaints. It would make the environment for everyone more toxic but when this is what you're dealing with I wouldn't want to work with any of you but I suppose that's why I'm not in that role.

So to finish with a quote, the time for honouring yourselves will soon be at an end, look forward to getting back to some more healthy competition.

Man that Koolaid is strong.

I raided a long time on this server before hanging it up. Noone from IB, Rampage or TMO cheated as blatantly as Awakened does.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You must be new here then. I'd go over the long list of players who logged into this server to cheat somehow but that would take a bit of effort.

Here I'll start you off, Froovy and Internode

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Man that Koolaid is strong.

I raided a long time on this server before hanging it up. Noone from IB, Rampage or TMO cheated as blatantly as Awakened does.

ya i guess TMO having two members nearly get their entire guild disbanded for duping is nothing compared to one nerd alt tabbing to gain a few extra feet in a footrace

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here I'll start you off, Froovy and Internode



ya i guess TMO having two members nearly get their entire guild disbanded for duping is nothing compared to one nerd alt tabbing to gain a few extra feet in a footrace

TMO must have touched you in some very inappropriate places for you to keep bringing that up. No one is discussing alt+tab jumping in this thread FYI. That was the 2nd suspension. This is the 3rd. Poor Feign.

I do give you credit though. You gave a good example of 2 individuals who did log in to cheat. There are many more on this server. BTW one of those you listed was later guilded with you for quite awhile with a new character.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

TMO must have touched you in some very inappropriate places for you to keep bringing that up.

youve literally been posting tinfoil hat theories about IB/Rampage/Awakened for 3 years now

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one is discussing alt+tab jumping in this thread FYI. That was the 2nd suspension. This is the 3rd. Poor Feign.

I was making a comparison to point out how ridiculous and melodramatic you were being by calling us blatant cheaters for a couple people using some client exploit (that both guilds were using) when this server has a long history of shady tactics among other things

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do give you credit though. You gave a good example of 2 individuals who did log in to cheat. There are many more on this server. BTW one of those you listed was later guilded with you for quite awhile with a new character.

What a shocking revelation, you mean that anybody that can adequately play their character without fucking up and maintain an acceptable attendance % could infiltrate any raid guild on the server? IT CANT BE

[Lazie]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

youve literally been posting 1. tinfoil hat theories about IB/Rampage/Awakened for 3 years now



I was making a comparison to point out how ridiculous and melodramatic you were being by calling us blatant cheaters for a couple people using some client exploit (that both guilds were using) when this server has a long history of shady tactics among other things



What a shocking revelation, you mean that anybody that can adequately play their character without fucking up and maintain an acceptable attendance % could infiltrate any raid guild on the server? IT CANT BE

1. No I havent. Had a lot of respect for IB and Rampage. They had good competitive players with good leadership. Bad apples who do things aside. Awakened not so much their leadership is piss poor and they ignore when their players break rules.

2. I never called anyone using a client bug blatant cheaters. Again you need to get your mixed up facts straight. Feign being Feign as usual.

3. He was open about which character he played when I asked that character. He wasn't hiding it.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here I'll start you off, Froovy and Internode

ya i guess TMO having two members nearly get their entire guild disbanded for duping is nothing compared to one nerd alt tabbing to gain a few extra feet in a footrace

Relevant: https://youtu.be/ZCAln8j1kMk

to clarify, TMO was disbanded by its guild leader. the p99 staff has not yet (to my knowledge) disbanded a guild as punishment on Blue server.

[Xanaxx]

Originally Posted by Tayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As for the recent suspensions, these were not intentional things done by leadership to screw the server around. These were bad decisions made by members, members that have seen or learned these things from the competition, everyone is guilty of similar doings.

I disagree. In all these infractions, FRAPS was provided before the illegal pull happen and Awaken leadership told AM officers to fuck off.

So how is this not intentional by leadership to screw the server?