Awakened Banned 10 days

[Joyelle]

Originally Posted by Vianna [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And in none of those were alt+tab used. It was only in videos of Hjial. Weirdly you guys only got suspended for one instance of it. When it was evident he did in it almost every race he won based on the videos he posted. Your guild is the scummiest to ever be part of the end game on this server.

If Detoxx, Mistin and Nalken aren't hiding anything then they should have no problem with making all of the FTE videos they hid this morning public again. Until that happens...

[maskedmelon]

Somehow I feel that it still ok to object to a cavity search even if I got nothing to hide. Ya know?

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Joyelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If Detoxx, Mistin and Nalken aren't hiding anything then they should have no problem with making all of the FTE videos they hid this morning public again. Until that happens...

Sad just sad that you guys support cheaters in your guild and try to deflect blame on other people because you get caught cheating.

[maskedmelon]

To be fair, there is a valid point to be made about devising new strategies, most of specially when you try to develop a comprehensive rule set. People will reasonably assume that if it is not in the rules it must be ok! That is why you make fewer, more general rules. Intuitively people understand (for the most part) what is and is not acceptable. The more you try to narrow it, the more grey you introduce. The FPS deal is obviously exploiting game mechanics.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

To be fair, there is a valid point to be made about devising new strategies, most of specially when you try to develop a comprehensive rule set. People will reasonably assume that if it is not in the rules it must be ok! That is why you make fewer, more general rules. Intuitively people understand (for the most part) what is and is not acceptable. The more you try to narrow it, the more grey you introduce. The FPS deal is obviously exploiting game mechanics.

Basically this.

Grey areas exist because of the mentality "if it isn't explicitly banned it's okay". That's been the petitionquest motto since the beginning. Lull pulling is one of those grey areas that was acceptable for awhile and then eventually ruled against the spirit of the rules.

Exploiting how FPS changes when tabbing to gain a lead is pretty clearly against the spirit of the rules. If hjial was the only one doing this and Awakened the only one benefiting it makes sense to suspend them.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically this.

Grey areas exist because of the mentality "if it isn't explicitly banned it's okay". That's been the petitionquest motto since the beginning. Lull pulling is one of those grey areas that was acceptable for awhile and then eventually ruled against the spirit of the rules.

unacceptable line of thinking for any leader. We all have skype access to Sirken and Braknar. If one of your members comes up with a way to do something you send them a message and ask if it is okay.

During Rampage's reign i had a bard that came to me with a faction bending mechanic to kill Klandicar, Gore and Sontalak with unsimilarly factioned mobs and dragon aoes SOLO. I asked Sirken and he said it wasn't possible.

I watched him do it and then invited Sirken to join. He killed Klandicar twice and Sontalak once. (Once for me as proof and once for Sirken as proof). The faction was then changed by a Dev because they didn't approve.

Fix the game. Don't try to break it. Helpful hackers v.s. community terrorists.

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

During Rampage's reign i had a bard that came to me with a faction bending mechanic to kill Klandicar, Gore and Sontalak with unsimilarly factioned mobs and dragon aoes SOLO. I asked Sirken and he said it wasn't possible.

I watched him do it and then invited Sirken to join. He killed Klandicar twice and Sontalak once. (Once for me as proof and once for Sirken as proof). The faction was then changed by a Dev because they didn't approve.

Can you describe how this worked? This sounds really cool in terms of gameplay mechanics.

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you describe how this worked? This sounds really cool in terms of gameplay mechanics.

Probably like the old faction burning stuff back on SZ. Use songs to boost faction with a dragon then make the other dragon fight you, your dragon pal will defend you from the dragon you just pissed off. I saw people use the nexus scion to kill gorenaire like that back on SZ

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you describe how this worked? This sounds really cool in terms of gameplay mechanics.

faction wars on classic could be started in various places .. plane of tactics was very well known for this on live

as a charming class, you can charm a mob on faction A, and engage a caster mob from faction B, when mob A starts to nuke your pet, you break charm before the casting ends

this results in a mob nuking a mob on another faction, and they will start to fight each other

from this point on you can train adds from both factions onto the fight, they will assist the mobs already fighting

if you did 1 damage on each npc you got xp / loot rights

fun times, also very good in shadowhaven

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Basically this.

Grey areas exist because of the mentality "if it isn't explicitly banned it's okay". That's been the petitionquest motto since the beginning. Lull pulling is one of those grey areas that was acceptable for awhile and then eventually ruled against the spirit of the rules.

Exploiting how FPS changes when tabbing to gain a lead is pretty clearly against the spirit of the rules. If hjial was the only one doing this and Awakened the only one benefiting it makes sense to suspend them.

Is this the "Better to ask for forgiveness than permission" raid strat?