Shocking leaked image shows spirit of compromise on p99 in A/A's absence!

[Swish]

Me either hehehe (this is a fun circlejerk)

[Maner]

Originally Posted by wrighter00 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It was an awesome past few days. Thanks to all the guilds in on the agreement. We got to nail some targets that are otherwise a shit show. This set the tone of a perfect setting for a PvE server. As far as I knew the competitors played PvP so I'm not sure who some of you top guys think you're kidding?

I have no major qualms with Awakened or Aftermath, but your "leading of the server" can be questionable at best. Poopsocking, FTE racing, and lawyerquesting is some of the most ridiculous MMO stuff I've seen. I urge you guys to work with us all more on spreading out this content. We're not all interested in talking about how great we are. We already know it, and quite frankly, FoH, Anonymous, and Venerate fucking crushed our targets that you guys think are only reserved for the "top notch" players. We don't even have the gear that you guys do from consistently farming the top Tier targets... sooo that should tell you something. It's asinine to talk about how to or who knows how to manage MMO strats. To quote the "17 year old elf simulator" quote, this ain't anyone's first rodeo.

For Karana's sake, open the throne rooms and vaults to diplomacy already. The real war is with the Dragons and Giants, and you're not the only ones who can do this anymore. Everyone else just did. Time to stop with the "how great are we though?" stuff.

Its kind of amazing how warped your view of reality is. Its almost as if you have never bothered to spend time trying to FTE so you are just talking out of your ass in regards to what happens during a normal raid week. There is also a huge difference in doing encounters such as CT when you are the only force in the zone compared to when you are racing other guilds to the same target. Gratz on your telk, and zlandi kills though, obviously the hardest mobs in the game.

There are established server rules, if you don't like them then there is always phinny. Just because you and your friends dont want to put forth the time to FTE race during entire windows, doesn't mean everyone feels the same way you do. And you're not special enough to demand that those who are willing to put forth more time don't just because you don't want to.

No one cares about whether or not you talk yourselves up, it was never in question that your 3 guild raid collective could kill targets in ToV. The problem is why do you deserve them without having to put forth the same amount of effort that others are willing to put forth? This isn't a better than you issue, its a we invest more time and effort than you, so why isn't it ok that we are rewarded more targets for it?

[Detoxx]

You guys clamor and rave about how you don't want us to push our playstyle on you, which I whole heartedly respect, but then you turn around and try to force your playstyle on us. I know, for a fact, that A LOT of people, myself included, play this game still for the competition involved in racing. You take that away, a lot of people quit.

No way is the right way but hypocrisy certainly isnt going to work. Yes, staring for 16 hours sucks but contrary to popular belief, 95% of A/A dont do it for 16 hours. They do it for a few hours at a clip and call it a day. Ironically, every guild and every member of every guild is afforded the same option.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys clamor and rave about how you don't want us to push our playstyle on you, which I whole heartedly respect, but then you turn around and try to force your playstyle on us. I know, for a fact, that A LOT of people, myself included, play this game still for the competition involved in racing. You take that away, a lot of people quit.

No way is the right way but hypocrisy certainly isnt going to work. Yes, staring for 16 hours sucks but contrary to popular belief, 95% of A/A dont do it for 16 hours. They do it for a few hours at a clip and call it a day. Ironically, every guild and every member of every guild is afforded the same option.

How many people have quit due to "competitive" raiding completely blocking them from content?

[Froakula]

Had a blast, vote to reduce variance to 8 hours max to make the game more fun for all.

[EdTuBrutus]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You guys clamor and rave about how you don't want us to push our playstyle on you, which I whole heartedly respect, but then you turn around and try to force your playstyle on us. I know, for a fact, that A LOT of people, myself included, play this game still for the competition involved in racing. You take that away, a lot of people quit.

No way is the right way but hypocrisy certainly isnt going to work. Yes, staring for 16 hours sucks but contrary to popular belief, 95% of A/A dont do it for 16 hours. They do it for a few hours at a clip and call it a day. Ironically, every guild and every member of every guild is afforded the same option.

It's not hypocrisy its a simple judgement call. The current server rules favour poopsocking combined with high availability and actively prohibit scheduled raiding. And that's the core difference here. It's nothing to do with being able to race FTE or not, as many have said, anyone can participate in that.

But being able to get 40 people online within 1 hour is not viable for a lot of guild set ups. Heck it's not even desireable for most guilds even if it was viable.

So the judgement call is this. Keep the server rules as they are, favour poopsocking and pander to less than 200 people. Or change the rules, require rotation, and favour 2500 people.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many people have quit due to "competitive" raiding completely blocking them from content?

who is completely blocked from raiding? the current incarnation of the rules makes it the same playing field for everyone willing to put forth the time investment. Maybe raiding on P99 just isn't for you if you aren't willing to make the effort or put forth the time. What about P99 says everyone who creates a character will be able to experience every aspect of the game at the pace they want?

[EdTuBrutus]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

who is completely blocked from raiding? the current incarnation of the rules makes it the same playing field for everyone willing to put forth the time investment. Maybe raiding on P99 just isn't for you if you aren't willing to make the effort or put forth the time. What about P99 says everyone who creates a character will be able to experience every aspect of the game at the pace they want?

The rules completely block them from raiding because they would need 24 hours (possibly 48) to schedule enough people to be available even if they got the FTE. They don't, they get 1 hour.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe raiding on P99 just isn't for you?

It's true, sitting around watching paint dry is indeed not for everyone. Most folks look at that and say, "Nope."

Danth

[lonmoer]

Love watching all these neck beards who are so proud of not having jobs and being able to play this game all day. And to the losers who play this game at work? fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you.