Anti Bullying

[SlankyLanky]

carry a knife. problem solved.

[Daldolma]

This whole retarded debate started with the fact that school admins suspended both students.

It was entirely the correct decision. They're not in fucking high school. It's not like the suspension matters. It's not going to effect him in any way. It's not punitive. It does, however, give him a chance to go home and let things blow over before coming back to school. If he went back to school the next day, there'd be a shit storm. All the friends of the tiny kid would be all over him. It just creates unnecessary drama. He was in a fight, he gets suspended. Period. It's the right call.

I'd be shocked if the school administrators didn't admonish the parents of the little kid while telling the parents of the big guy that it was a precautionary, blanket measure.

There's also the possibility that they didn't see the video before making the decision, in which case, no matter who started it, your inclination is going to be to question the kid that is twice as big and won the fight.

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Pico [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Schools should never, ever tacitly condone violence in any situation.

And your experiences don't really matter because for every one of you there are a bunch of kids even physically weaker and less mentally incapable of standing up for themselves. Those are the kids bullies target. And if you think constant torment and harassment is somehow good for that child's development you are seriously insane.

/sigh

You are misreading what I am saying... never did I ever say that schools should condone violence, ever. Don't take what I am saying out of context. My main argument is that it is ok to teach a bully a lesson, within reason. I word my phrases carefully (physicality instead of violence, where you misquoted me), however you still take it out of context. If the bully keeps coming at you, like the original movie showed, it is completely fine to react the way the kid did. Should he have let the little tool keep punching him, or turned his back to him and ran after a teacher, or just curl up in a ball and suck his thumb? A school should not condone any violence, however self-defense is fine. That is all I am really saying. Some times self-defense is a bit violent, but as soon as someone infringes on your safety/comfort, it is ok to lash back reasonably.

I don't think constant torment and harassment is good for a child's development. I do think the strongest adults have learned to deal with difficulties earlier in life. Sometimes that just so happens to come from standing up to bullying. Of course I would say run away from a bully if you can manage. However if the bullying persists and you are backed in the corner (as was shown originally), you gotta fight back. If you can not see the moderation in my post, please read again.

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This whole retarded debate started with the fact that school admins suspended both students.

It was entirely the correct decision. They're not in fucking high school. It's not like the suspension matters. It's not going to effect him in any way. It's not punitive. It does, however, give him a chance to go home and let things blow over before coming back to school. If he went back to school the next day, there'd be a shit storm. All the friends of the tiny kid would be all over him. It just creates unnecessary drama. He was in a fight, he gets suspended. Period. It's the right call.

I'd be shocked if the school administrators didn't admonish the parents of the little kid while telling the parents of the big guy that it was a precautionary, blanket measure.

There's also the possibility that they didn't see the video before making the decision, in which case, no matter who started it, your inclination is going to be to question the kid that is twice as big and won the fight.

Well put. I think suspending both kids is a good choice, like you said, as a precaution for their safety. However, if the kid is really suing Casey Heynes like is being suggested, that is just sad.

[Bodeanicus]

The response by the school administration was the correct one. Physical violence is not to be tolerated on school grounds. You can't punish one and not the other when both are guilty. Welcome to the real world where noting is fair. What most of you are glossing over is the little kid (aggressor) was suspended for a much longer term than the big kid. The punishment is appropriate.

[Ennoia]

Originally Posted by SlankyLanky [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

carry a knife. problem solved.

That makes you almost as much of a tool as Harrison. Stun gun...pepper spray...same effect (getting an attacker away from you) but doesn't make you look like a total jackass. People who carry guns and knives are usually the kinds of people who don't know when to keep their mouths shut or go looking for trouble.

Even if a verbal issue in say, a bar fight scenario, doesn't escalate to physical violence, as soon as your stupid ass pulls out that knife to try to intimidate the guy giving you a hard time he has every right to bash your fucking skull in because you're threatening him with a weapon. Once a weapon is brought into it fight or flight kicks in and someone usually ends up doing something they regret.

A few years ago that exact scenario happened to me. Was in a bar with some friends,one of them saw this chick he went to high school with so they went outside (in a wide open parking lot) to have a smoke and catch up. Time got away from them and the chick's boyfriend flipped out. He and his friends got in my friend's face and started shouting at him (mind you, my friend is a 6'3" martial arts instructor). My other friends saw it and being the idiots they are (and the reason I don't talk to them anymore) one of them pulls out a knife and the other smashes a beer bottle on the counter. So now it's gone from one guy trying to explain exactly what was going on to me and my friend trying to keep these 6 guys from (rightfully) jumping these other 2 idiots who decided to bring weapons into it.

Is it ever worth someone possibly getting killed over a fucking misunderstanding? No, never. Go buy some fucking pepper spray and stop being a fucking idiot.

[Henini]

way late in the thread, but that little bitch going after the big guy... he deserved it and a whole lot more.

the principal that suspended him... needs to get fired. he's got issues. perhaps he was bullied as a kid and never had the courage to stand up for him self like the fat kid did and now he's not happy. spineless bastard.

they got it filmed... it's not hearsay. the lil kid clearly puched him in the face twice unprovoked.

What message are you sending? if someone punches you in the face repeatedly just stand there and get beaten... seriously? mybe that principal needs to get a few shots in the face him self.

[Henini]

Originally Posted by Ennoia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it ever worth someone possibly getting killed over a fucking misunderstanding? No, never. Go buy some fucking pepper spray and stop being a fucking idiot.

I say let retards kill each other. more chicks for me!

[Abacab "The REAL truth"]

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[Gorgetrapper]

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