Fighting dragons at ToV zonein

[Maner]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Totally not true.

So you are trying to go to PoM on the day that everything is currently in window?

The odds of you choosing the exact moment to zone in, during a 5-10min at most fight, when mobs have a 16 hour window, seem rather slim actually.

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I mean, I'm sure on Tallon Zek or whatever server it was that nilbog & co. played on there were some assholes killing dragons at ToV entrance and that's probably their justification for it, but like, this is not a damn PvP server. Allow that shit on red, not blue.

i have never seen anyone provide proof that actual dragons were ever killed at the TOV zone in though. I just want to know how someone can claim people were banned for doing it on live.

Originally Posted by Dronuspk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"Show me proof of something over 14 years ago!"

if they can make the claim they obviously have something that supports it right? or else its all just talking out of their ass i guess...

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you are trying to go to PoM on the day that everything is currently in window?

Yes, I have zoned into ToV and died multiple times when my guild wasn't raiding there, back when I was in a guild. Besides, this argument falls flat because you're basically saying that anyone who ever wants to enter ToV should have to figure out who, if anyone, is in there and sling tells until you figure out whether or not there is currently a dragon being slain at the god damned entrance.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The odds of you choosing the exact moment to zone in, during a 5-10min at most fight, when mobs have a 16 hour window, seem rather slim actually.

Maybe immediately after a repop when the windows are still stacked. But even if we're being generous and granting that they idiotically slaughtered all 27 or whatever dragons in the course of 4 hours, and it's now the following week, that's still an entire day out of the week that you may or may not zone into ToV and have to scramble to a safe spot before a dragon's AoE kills you. Better hope you didn't accidentally get aggro in WW and zone in with low health.

If we're being uncharitable and assume there hasn't been a repop in several months or more, windows are going to be spread out and could more or less cover all seven days of the week.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I have zoned into ToV and died multiple times when my guild wasn't raiding there, back when I was in a guild. Besides, this argument falls flat because you're basically saying that anyone who ever wants to enter ToV should have to figure out who, if anyone, is in there and sling tells until you figure out whether or not there is currently a dragon being slain at the god damned entrance.



Maybe immediately after a repop when the windows are still stacked. But even if we're being generous and granting that they idiotically slaughtered all 27 or whatever dragons in the course of 4 hours, that's still an entire day out of the week that you may or may not zone into ToV and hope you scramble to a safe spot before a dragon's AoE kills you. Better hope you didn't accidentally get aggro in WW and zone in with low health.

If we're being uncharitable and assume there hasn't been a repop in several months or more, windows are going to be spread out and could more or less cover all seven days of the week.

when the windows are spread out of 7 days there is even less of a chance actually. Not saying you have to sling tells but doing a couple /who alls can easily save you a death if you are so under-geared that you fall over to a dragon ae before you can zone. Seems like its in your best interest to ask instead of just assume anywhere is safe. There is a reason why you are told not to bind in dungeons on this server. The smart people assume there is a train somewhere every time they zone into a dungeon

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

when the windows are spread out of 7 days there is even less of a chance actually.

It would be an equal chance, actually. Stacked windows would just make it easier because you'd know which days of the week are safe.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seems like its in your best interest to ask instead of just assume anywhere is safe.

Seems like you shouldn't have to ask to make sure that the one room in which no mobs spawn - what used to be called the "safe area" - is safe.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not saying you have to sling tells but doing a couple /who alls can easily save you a death if you are so under-geared that you fall over to a dragon ae before you can zone.

It is not unreasonable to assume ToV entrance should be safe. Luckily for me, I could probably withstand any ToV dragon's AoEs without any heals, unlike most warm body Awakened/Aftermath scrubs, but I'm not always playing my characters. Sometimes you're on a low level anchor, sometimes you're on a low level ranger, etc.

Originally Posted by Maner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The smart people assume there is a train somewhere every time they zone into a dungeon

Smart people also correctly assume that even if it was possible, it absolutely would not be acceptable to pull Trakanon to Sebilis' entrance and kill him there.

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It would be an equal chance, actually. Stacked windows would just make it easier because you'd know which days of the week are safe.



Seems like you shouldn't have to ask to make sure that the one room in which no mobs spawn - what used to be called the "safe area" - is safe.



It is not unreasonable to assume ToV entrance should be safe. Luckily for me, I could probably withstand any ToV dragon's AoEs without any heals, unlike most warm body Awakened/Aftermath scrubs, but I'm not always playing my characters. Sometimes you're on a low level anchor, sometimes you're on a low level ranger, etc.



Smart people also correctly assume that even if it was possible, it absolutely would not be acceptable to pull Trakanon to Sebilis' entrance and kill him there.

Nemce has brainwashed you