Raid guild loot systems other than DKP?

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People get salty when they lose DKP bids too. There's no one system that's going to make everyone happy. At least /random is open and transparent.

It's too bad it's more trouble than it's worth to look at the numbers of all of the systems, such as raid attendance % versus loot earned %, member turnover rate, etc.

Blind dkp bidding should be a thing, best way of doing it. Easy to say "1" or "2" and know you're getting it for next to nothing, but if you value it you might go higher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know for a fact there were a couple of greedy bastards in Europa who in Sky would discourage people from the same class bidding on items. The officers didn't like it, I didn't like it... how dare someone send tells to their class brothers and say "hey dude, I REALLY need this, i've been after it for months - would you mind not bidding?". Wasn't a widespread thing but it did go on.

Hi Patoso, did you gear your 12 characters yet? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know for a fact there were a couple of greedy bastards in Europa who in Sky would discourage people from the same class bidding on items. The officers didn't like it, I didn't like it... how dare someone send tells to their class brothers and say "hey dude, I REALLY need this, i've been after it for months - would you mind not bidding?". Wasn't a widespread thing but it did go on.

This is 100% what I seen in another raid guild on this server regarding /ran rolls on some bottom tier raid quest items/drops. Had it personally happen to me. Either tells wanting to buy my winning roll, or tells discouraging me from rolling on an item for some made up reason by the player trying to explain why I shouldn't be rolling on an item and how they needed it.

After a few circumstances like this, all in one day I then realized how fake some of these guys were. All happy and "GRATS DUDE!!!!! YAY!!!!" in /gu chat but conniving in tells, trying to get more pixels at the detriment of others who fairly won something.

I just get really annoyed with this kind of behavior, and what makes it more ridiculous is these greedy dicks have an army of personal alts that walk around with more gear than the mains of the fringe players who they try to take gears away from.

It aint worth it. Sacrificing dignity and a sense of gaming freedom along with having to suck off guild leadership for pixels is BS, along with all the behind the scenes drama that goes on in tells from these greedy pricks.

I am sure there are some decent raid guilds, I just never seen one yet on this server. At this point no matter how loot is handled, I think as people have pointed out there are pros and cons to all the different systems of loot management. There's just no perfect way to ensure that everyone is treated fairly and equally, but I do think the /ran idea is as close to it as possible.

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blind dkp bidding should be a thing, best way of doing it. Easy to say "1" or "2" and know you're getting it for next to nothing, but if you value it you might go higher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blind dkp bidding is how we do it in AG, winner pays second place +1.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Blind dkp bidding is how we do it in AG, winner pays second place +1.

Oh, that kinda neat ^^

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh, that kinda neat ^^

Its great; our loot system is the best ive seen for casual players. I dont want to derail this thread but if anyone is interested in more info send me a tell or pm.