P99 Auctions is Closing

Baler · #1 10-31-2016, 07:10 AM

I say we band together and find the malicious attacker(s). Then take them out behind the barn.

site has it's flaws but it's so fking convenient.

I'm guessing the people behind p99auctions don't have the time or desire to recode everything to bulster it's encryption and or source of information.

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Originally Posted by elwing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

definitely, it would be also wise to give IPs of dubious activities to P99 to monitor, as I suspect these people might be involved in RMT and such activities...

While I love the spirit of this post. IPs can be rotated, ISPs can be changed. It's one of the flaws in the 'anonymous' system that is the internet today, necessary evil.

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It does make you wonder how players are going to determine prices for items now?

The same way they always have. Perception of item value.
Nothing on P99 (Blue or Red) has real value. Supply and Demand isn't even a thing on blue or red.

Everyone who is active could have fungi's for their main and there would still be a lot left over. Yet people still precieve it to be worth ~40k atm (6 months ago it was 60k, which it was precieved to be valued at for years)

maskedmelon · #2 10-31-2016, 08:15 AM

My condolences to the p99auctions team on their loss, but a huge thank you to the asshole responsible for ridding us of this non-classic feature.

The site was being heavily exploited by a handful of individuals using armies of alts to established their preferred prices on items.

The site's existence also diluted social interaction. Since th rise of p99auctions players have become less sociable and more unpleasant whenever encountering an offer (buy or sell) deviating from the price established by the spammers.

I used to have fun when I needed to dump my wares in EC. More recently I dread going there because of player attitudes associated with that site.

I am certain an alternative will rise in short order to fill the void, liberating players from the burden of choice.

For now though, good riddance.

heartbrand · #3 10-31-2016, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My condolences to the p99auctions team on their loss, but a huge thank you to the asshole responsible for ridding us of this non-classic feature.

The site was being heavily exploited by a handful of individuals using armies of alts to established their preferred prices on items.

The site's existence also diluted social interaction. Since th rise of p99auctions players have become less sociable and more unpleasant whenever encountering an offer (buy or sell) deviating from the price established by the spammers.

I used to have fun when I needed to dump my wares in EC. More recently I dread going there because of player attitudes associated with that site.

I am certain an alternative will rise in short order to fill the void, liberating players from the burden of choice.

For now though, good riddance.

You are the type of person I loathe in society.

arsenalpow · #4 10-31-2016, 08:51 AM

This is why p99 can't have nice things.

Lhancelot · #5 10-31-2016, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My condolences to the p99auctions team on their loss, but a huge thank you to the asshole responsible for ridding us of this non-classic feature.

The site was being heavily exploited by a handful of individuals using armies of alts to established their preferred prices on items.

The site's existence also diluted social interaction. Since th rise of p99auctions players have become less sociable and more unpleasant whenever encountering an offer (buy or sell) deviating from the price established by the spammers.

I used to have fun when I needed to dump my wares in EC. More recently I dread going there because of player attitudes associated with that site.

I am certain an alternative will rise in short order to fill the void, liberating players from the burden of choice.

For now though, good riddance.

Not to go into it, you went into it deep enough... But of the pro and cons you nailed the cons of why I did not like the site.

It simply was too easy to manipulate by players in the game to put prices where they wanted them to be.

The idea behind the site was great, sadly when people can manipulate nice things to their advantage and to the detriment of others, it will be done.

maskedmelon · #6 10-31-2016, 09:14 AM

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You are the type of person I loathe in society.

And which type is that? The kind who thinks or the kind who speaks her mind? ^^ Fear not friend, most cede their intellectual sovereignty to the first school of thought that panders to their sense of self worth while demanding minimal investment. There are very few who care enough to exercise independent thought. ^^

Sage Truthbearer · #7 10-31-2016, 02:07 PM

The claims that all of these people were all using P99auctions to inflate prices are extremely exaggerated. There were a number of safeguards that prevented this, and from personal experience I have a pretty good idea of the market value of a lot of items an P99auctions was mostly pretty accurate.

Lhancelot · #8 10-31-2016, 02:16 PM

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The claims that all of these people were all exploiting P99auctions to inflate prices are extremely exaggerated. I have played on P99 long enough that I have a pretty good idea of the market value of a lot of items. When I would compare that against listings on P99auctions, most of the time P99auctions was pretty accurate.

Maybe true, but it still happened.

Also, like Thufir said above, really the only people hurt by this in the game are people that never spend any time in the tunnel. These players won't know prices or have any site that tells them what they should pay or sell items for.

Shouldn't it be that way? Classic, right?

If you want to know prices in EC, then learn them like anyone else does who barters there.

If I don't raid it doesn't make sense for me to cry about not having access to raid gears. It's the same with barter prices in EC.

If you never barter in EC, then naturally you won't have knowledge of what an item is worth or not worth.

Sadly I think there's a nefarious reason as to why the P99 auction site was bombarded by useless information all for the obvious purpose of ruining it's success.

That's the worst thing about the site being pulled down. It should not have stopped due to being sabotaged by some pathetic, pixel-greedy nerds who probably were losing real money over it.

paulgiamatti · #9 11-01-2016, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sage Truthbearer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The claims that all of these people were all using P99auctions to inflate prices are extremely exaggerated. There were a number of safeguards that prevented this, and from personal experience I have a pretty good idea of the market value of a lot of items an P99auctions was mostly pretty accurate.

This,

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p99auctions was a public aggregator site, with its information available to all. now that it is down everyone loses information, but those who had less information (traded less often) suffer most, since this information bloc represented a much larger percentage of their total knowledge than it did to an experienced tunnelquester. that this information could have been manipulated by others is not relevant. those same people will be able to manipulate information in their private trades more easily now, because this site isn't around to contradict them.

and this.

The extent to which people were able to manipulate price averaging on the AH was far, far less than you're able to do so elsewhere, and people who claim otherwise are really bad at math. This is likely the doing of a prolific tunnelquester or tunnelquesters who deal in RMT. With accurate pricing information easy enough for a chimpanzee to access available to everyone, people flipping items and such lose their edge and profits drop.

Quidello · #10 11-01-2016, 01:02 AM

Can anyone show some evidence or a case of people manipulating prices on the site?