Shadow Knight starting stats for Dark elfs, Iksars and Erudites

[Ennoia]

Originally Posted by Dr4z3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As to the main question: the P99 Wiki knows a lot about SK's http://wiki.project1999.org/index.ph...Creation_Guide

...don't make me laugh. There's really no useful information in there at all aside from starting stats. The suggestions for where to spend points...I can't even form a coherent sentence to describe how much of a failure it is.

If AC was working properly here (I heard it wasn't working liek it does on live) then going straight Agility for any race would be a primary stat. AC > All when playing an SK, and Agility affects that, and is also one of the hardest stats to max out as an SK. It's going to give minimal returns right now, but at higher level a difference would be noticed. After that, Stamina dump until you're out of points.

Another standard build would be (assuming you have spent points to raise your Agility to 75 if it isn't already...THIS IS NOT AN OPTION, you suffer a mitigation penalty if you are under 75 Agility) Stamina>Strength or an even split between the 2 works out pretty well.

Rule of thumb if you don't want to be labeled a total moron...never put points into Dex, Int, Wis, Cha.

Most people would say to go Ogre for the frontal stun immunity, but then the issue of getting stuck in dungeons comes about. They also look pretty dumb.

Dark Elf for Ultravision is pretty baller, and a personal favorite. High Agility and Intelligence to start also makes them good. Being able to Hide at lower levels until you get FD can also come in handy.

The Regeneration from a Troll is usually enough to entice people to make one, but they also run into the tight quarters problem, and 6 extra HP/tick...or whatever it is...doesn't make a huge difference in short duration fights when mobs are hitting hard and fast.

Iksar benefit from a slight innate AC boost (the bread and butter of the SK stats) and some Regeneration. Come Kunark, Iksar also have it easier than everyone else when it comes to questing for Greenmist, though Innoruuk's curse may be a bit harder to obtain since everyone hates them.

Erudite and Human really aren't worth playing. They can't see in the dark, have shit for starting stats, and have no nifty racial stuff to make up for it.

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[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Ennoia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...don't make me laugh. There's really no useful information in there at all aside from starting stats. The suggestions for where to spend points...I can't even form a coherent sentence to describe how much of a failure it is.

If AC was working properly here (I heard it wasn't working liek it does on live) then going straight Agility for any race would be a primary stat. AC > All when playing an SK, and Agility affects that, and is also one of the hardest stats to max out as an SK. It's going to give minimal returns right now, but at higher level a difference would be noticed. After that, Stamina dump until you're out of points.

Another standard build would be (assuming you have spent points to raise your Agility to 75 if it isn't already...THIS IS NOT AN OPTION, you suffer a mitigation penalty if you are under 75 Agility) Stamina>Strength or an even split between the 2 works out pretty well.

Rule of thumb if you don't want to be labeled a total moron...never put points into Dex, Int, Wis, Cha.

Most people would say to go Ogre for the frontal stun immunity, but then the issue of getting stuck in dungeons comes about. They also look pretty dumb.

Dark Elf for Ultravision is pretty baller, and a personal favorite. High Agility and Intelligence to start also makes them good. Being able to Hide at lower levels until you get FD can also come in handy.

The Regeneration from a Troll is usually enough to entice people to make one, but they also run into the tight quarters problem, and 6 extra HP/tick...or whatever it is...doesn't make a huge difference in short duration fights when mobs are hitting hard and fast.

Iksar benefit from a slight innate AC boost (the bread and butter of the SK stats) and some Regeneration. Come Kunark, Iksar also have it easier than everyone else when it comes to questing for Greenmist, though Innoruuk's curse may be a bit harder to obtain since everyone hates them.

Erudite and Human really aren't worth playing. They can't see in the dark, have shit for starting stats, and have no nifty racial stuff to make up for it.

www.EvilGamer.net The only Shadowknight resource you're ever going to need. Learn to make sweet, unadulterated love to the SEARCH function...and I don't mean checking the first 3 posts and then asking. Check a few posts, see if something is hiding somewhere, then if you can't find it, ask.

Three things:
1.) You want your worn AC at above the cap. Starting points in agility won't help you there. Putting any points in agility are points wasted if you can get AGI over 75 via a single piece of gear or cat-o-nine tails, or whatever. So this is dependant on your race but no race should dump everything they can in to AGI.

2.) Vision isn't an issue on this server. So saying that human and Erudite SKs suck is completely invalid. They can both wander Freeport with little to no faction work which is huge. Also, neither of them need to rely on shaman or shrink potions.

3.)Starting points in strength are a total and complete waste.

[epicentre]

Originally Posted by Ennoia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...don't make me laugh. There's really no useful information in there at all aside from starting stats. The suggestions for where to spend points...I can't even form a coherent sentence to describe how much of a failure it is.

Maybe you could form coherent sentences to fill that wiki with useful informations?

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by epicentre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe you could form coherent sentences to fill that wiki with useful informations?

This.



Also, a measly 20 stat points won't make or break your character. An ogre shaman who spends 25 points on charisma and 5 points on dexterity will, with the same gear as one who spent 25 in wisdom and 5 in stamina or vice versa, be able to solo the same mobs.

There's definitely a benefit in having those stats in the best places - but it really won't make a character "suck" to misallocate them.

[Myrkskog]

If you aren't rolling an Ogre you don't care about stats, so what's the point in worrying about what to put them into? Get your agi to 75 and then pick whatever.

[dredge]

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[Ennoia]

Originally Posted by dredge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I can see there's no clear answer to this then?

Do you all agree that the ac penalty from being under 75agi is only until you put on a piece of gear that raises you to 75?

Is having no ac while naked really a concern for corpse runs or is the little bit naked not going to make a difference anyways?

AND btw I do care about stats, but I am not willing to play a "giant" race, It drives me nuts and I just wont enjoy myself.

I'm torn between the Dark Elf and the Erudite at this point, I created both and have them bound in FP, now I just need to decide on who to pass the suit of banded to.

After allocating the stats they look like this:

Erudite.... dark elf
hp 31.... hp 31
ac 15.... ac 18
atk 26.... atk 29
str 80.... str 80
sta 80.... sta 80
agi 75.... agi 90
dex 70.... dex 75
int 117... int 109
cha 75.... cha 65

Agility on SK gear isn't all that common. I dumped a shitload of platinum into a twink SK and if I remember correctly he didn't have much in the way of Agility bonuses via gear.

Personally I would go with the Dark Elf.

Originally Posted by guineapig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Three things:
1.) You want your worn AC at above the cap. Starting points in agility won't help you there. Putting any points in agility are points wasted if you can get AGI over 75 via a single piece of gear or cat-o-nine tails, or whatever. So this is dependant on your race but no race should dump everything they can in to AGI.

2.) Vision isn't an issue on this server. So saying that human and Erudite SKs suck is completely invalid. They can both wander Freeport with little to no faction work which is huge. Also, neither of them need to rely on shaman or shrink potions.

3.)Starting points in strength are a total and complete waste.

Agility does in fact affect your AC.

Wandering Freeport was never really an issue. Neriak isn't that much farther than North Freeport for banking.

Starting points in Strength are far from a waste if you're starting with heavy gear and you actually want to be able to hit things at lower level.

[guineapig]

Originally Posted by Ennoia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agility does in fact affect your AC.

Wandering Freeport was never really an issue. Neriak isn't that much farther than North Freeport for banking.

This is true.

Originally Posted by Ennoia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Starting points in Strength are far from a waste if you're starting with heavy gear and you actually want to be able to hit things at lower level.

Well wait, you are either starting from scratch and have no gear or you are rolling an alt and starting with heavy gear. If you are starting with heavy gear you should also be able to start with STR items.

To my knowledge STR effects you max hit (and only after a certain level since you have damage caps early on) but STR does not effect your chance to hit. It does change yout ATK slightly though... maybe you were counting that?

[Ennoia]

Originally Posted by epicentre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe you could form coherent sentences to fill that wiki with useful informations?

My time has become pretty scarce, so while it's possible for me to answer direct questions having played an SK for 10 years, taking the time to dig through and pull out all the pertinent information to make the SK wiki page more useful just isn't there.