Rotation RNF Thread

[Flux]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sorry Flux, this was nothing again you friend. Like I said before I was just stating the facts. Its not opinon, its just FACTS.

Here is a copy and paste just for you

Facts are like old rampage pals; useful when they're on your side, but completely irrelevant under the lens of common sense and objectivity.

The Awakened of today is not simply Rampage+Taken anymore. The more that you rely on this delineation in your arguments, the more irrelevant your arguments become
Your belief that Awakened is propped up by a small group of your pals confirms how out of touch you are.

[Speedi]

Originally Posted by Flux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Facts are like old rampage pals; useful when they're on your
Your belief that Awakened is propped up by a small group of your pals confirms how out of touch you are.

Again you didn't lead my previous post, let me copy and paste it again.

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I normally don't post on these. But I figured I would tell the FACTS.




I think what this guy meant was if it wasn't for all my Rampage pals being so generous Taken would of never got anything.




That's pretty accurate. I mean what did Taken ever do on their own? I don't recall them EVER killing a contested VP target when IB/TMO was actively killing there. Once Velious was released Rampage didn't focus on VP and Kunark targets so we let BDA and Taken have VP, and the smaller guilds have Kunark targets. We was hoping the smaller guilds would have a better chance. But we all know what happened there as well. To show you how greedy Taken (Awakened) are, they are STILL to this day killing fear golems, VS, etc. I could go on, but I am sure you guys get the point. When they are doing nothing but giving that stuff to alts when the smaller guilds main toons that's been waiting for years still need stuff like that for their epics. Also I am not blaming my Rampage pals, I guess its goes back to the old saying "If you hang around dogs long enough your going to catch fleas"

As for Rampage we dominated Velious then once we got tired of killing the same target over and over we decided to call it quits. Some AFK'd for a while (like myself) some quit for good. Want proof you say? Just look at the server first Vulak kill, and see how many of those Rampage are still around.

The ones that wanted to continue raiding voted on a new guild name and all my Rampage pals and Taken merged to form a new guild called Awakened. The leadership was voted on also. I refused to go over to the fact the very few times I ever had problems with people on this server it was someone with a Taken tag. I know every guild has their problem child, and no guild is perfect. But facts are facts.

Also Rampage gave Awakened TONS of items and platinum to help them out for recharges and to start the guild out right. Since Taken never raided hardcore, for the guild to survive they needed it. I can remember in Rampage a full recharge session costing 300-400k for a full week, sometimes more. Hell Sontalak alone (which Rampage killed every week) was 200k or so recharge. Taken didn't have that kind of resources to do that every week.

To put it into perspective on how bad Taken was ... I can remember towards the end of Rampage, Taken wanting to help Rampage out on Sontalak, we quickly told them "Thanks but NO thanks!" This was because we couldn't depend on Taken not getting low HP agro and flipping the dragon and getting us killed. Later on I remember another time we actually let Taken help out when we was low on numbers. Let me tell you it was a shitshow. Sontalak flipping all over because Taken members not being prepared to stay alive during the fight. Then another time, we asked a select few of their members. We got the Sontalak killed, with like 10 or so Taken. Basically the ones we hand picked and could count on, Eratani was one of them. If I recall correctly that was the last time we ever asked them.

In closing, Taken never killed one contested Velious target by themselves. I can remember them wiping many many times on Klandicar and Rampage coming to help them just to be the nice guys we are. So once Awakened was formed all my Rampage pals had to carry them for several months till they got the hang of ToV and VP. If the truth is known they are STILL carrying them till this day, but I cant confirm that since I am not in the guild. What is funny to me about the entire situation is the fact Awakened would be NOTHING without the ex IB/Rampage that came over to carry them. But they act all smug, and act like they are all that ... give me a break. You guys might not admit it, but we all know its true. This is nothing personal, its just the truth. Sometimes the truth hurts right?

Love,

Speedi

I never said current Awakened. But for DAMN sure all my Rampage pals carried the load for at least several months. Facts speak for themselves bro

[Flux]

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Again you didn't lead my previous post, let me copy and paste it again.



I never said current Awakened. But for DAMN sure all my Rampage pals carried the load for at least several months. Facts speak for themselves bro

I'm not so invested in this argument that I'm going to pick apart every skewed paragraph that you've keymashed into this thread.

Believe it or not, I still play eq for fun. Perhaps if you weren't so furious about events that occurred over 12 months ago, you might have fun also.


Though I had a chuckle at this:

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Later on I remember another time we actually let Taken help out when we was low on numbers. Let me tell you it was a shitshow. Sontalak flipping all over because Taken members not being prepared to stay alive during the fight.

Taken was not prepared for one Sontalak fight in early Velious, therefore, the entire guild is tainted with the mark of burden and failure, never to recover!

Originally Posted by Speedi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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It really has no relevance when that is well over a year old. But you keep bring it up to make someone look bad. Ever heard of forgive and forget? This is just a game.

Forgive and forget my friend.

[Naxi]

Its a good thing the rotations are broken now because Awakened is going to need all the extra tracking/FTE/raid attendance DKP to make up for all the negative DKP a bunch of you deserve posting in RNF.

What's that? This isn't in the official RNF forum? Doesn't matter. It's a RNF thread, hell its even in the title. Oh wait, nm, maybe no one gets negative DKP because they need more than 10 hours to deliberate and have a bunch of people vote on who gets docked and why.

Who cares about the history of Awakened. Today's raiding =/= 2015 =/= 2014, etc. Taken took advantage of the scraps Forsaken gave them in their alliance and Rampage gave them an amazing deal. They've ridden it to where they are today.

Grats. Awakened is bloated and has a lot of mouths and alt mouths to feed. They need a lot of pixels to feed themselves. They point fingers and moan at other guilds wanting "handouts" via rotations. Guess what? A bunch of Awakened people are getting handouts too by collecting half-assed tracking hours and other ways to earn DKP.

Rustle is the place to be if you want to be self sufficient and make it on your own. We have the best pixel entrepreneurship program on P99. Get an FTE and you earn yourself whatever loot drops.

Tell me more about some random member who pulled up his/her bootstraps and got great loot in only 1 month. You can pull up your bootstrap in Rustle and get BiS loot in week 2 if you want.

The only handouts Rustle gives is bonus DKP for documented Rustle'n members do in game and on the forums. Based on what people are saying in this thread, I am going to be busy updating DKP for all the butthurt people are expressing here. Being Rustle's Rustle Bonus DKP moderator has its good days and bad days. This thread creates nothing but bad days for me lately.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by Flux [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Facts are like old rampage pals; useful when they're on your side, but completely irrelevant under the lens of common sense and objectivity.

The Awakened of today is not simply Rampage+Taken anymore. The more that you rely on this delineation in your arguments, the more irrelevant your arguments become
Your belief that Awakened is propped up by a small group of your pals confirms how out of touch you are.

Yes they are. Take away the players from Rampage in Awakened and the guild would fold in under a month. The leadership is that bad in the guild. It is carried by their racers.