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Old 10-03-2016, 07:05 PM
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yeah sounds like you got some entitlement issues, also sounds like you have a phobia of speaking and getting to know new people

you're a random person who probably isn't contributing much on raids and will never be a factor in whether the guild succeeds or fails, so people aren't going to really care about you. Especially if you're quiet and don't branch out and force the issue

you gotta do some shit on your own and not expect everything to be handed to u
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Old 10-03-2016, 07:21 PM
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yeah sounds like you got some entitlement issues, also sounds like you have a phobia of speaking and getting to know new people

you're a random person who probably isn't contributing much on raids and will never be a factor in whether the guild succeeds or fails, so people aren't going to really care about you. Especially if you're quiet and don't branch out and force the issue

you gotta do some shit on your own and not expect everything to be handed to u
I can see and understand your view, particularly when all you have to go on is the post I wrote. Obviously I couldn't go into all the details or the post would have been even longer.

I have no problem giving my time or ingame items to those who need and did so while in this guild. For instance, I had items that were no-drop pieces for epics that I gave to others in the guild (not sell) instead of MQing them for money like most people do. I didn't broadcast this in guild chat though, either.

As for "branching out and forcing the issue", I have no problem being social but you are right about me not forcing issues when I want something. I never been the type that "forced the issue" to get stuff and so maybe that's part of my problem too. I feel like if I give my time and attention to others without them begging for it, this should be reciprocated. If I have to "force the issue" to get the help of a guild, guess I don't need to be in a guild.
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Old 10-04-2016, 09:08 AM
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I feel like if I give my time and attention to others without them begging for it, this should be reciprocated. If I have to "force the issue" to get the help of a guild, guess I don't need to be in a guild.
Unilateral agreements are a road to disappointment :c Not everyone thinks the same as you, but you seem to understand that ^^ The simplest solution is to of course leave. If it is an uncomfortable atmosphere that you don't want to deal with, I wouldn't blame you for doing so. However, I would encourage you to be more reserved in your charity. A gift given with expectation is a purchase, not a gift. You are not being magnanimous in doing so. If you really like someone though and genuinely want to help them out, then by all means, do that, but do not do it when not relationship exists because without conveying your own desires others will just assume you are doing it to because you want to. I am generally wary of gifts for this reason because many people do think as you do and unless I have a relationship with you I don't really care about you and don't want to disappoint :/ I am generally happy to do whatever with whomever though, but there are very few people I would/have gifted anything to or move at the drop of a hat to help. I value them.
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