What does Casual Raiding really mean here?

[paulgiamatti]

Simple definition for P99:

Hardcore raiding guilds = Awakened & Aftermath

Casual raiding guilds = all other guilds that raid regularly

So there's a spectrum of what "casual raiding" entails - you have the more serious casual raiders like Divinity, Anonymous, Rustle, CSG, etc., who have a small core of hardcore raiders but are generally accommodating to a more casual playstyle, and you have guilds that raid semi-regularly but don't really have that core of hardcore people like Infernus, Clue, Fires of Heaven, et al.

[Nune]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simple definition for P99:

Hardcore raiding guilds = Awakened & Aftermath & CSG

Casual raiding guilds = all other guilds that raid regularly

ftfy

[paulgiamatti]

Nah, all CSG guilds are definitely casual - as Nemce said of AG, they just offer players the opportunity to do all the life-ruining things that hardcore guilds do as well. Omni is probably the most hardcore guild in CSG and they have one scheduled raid per week and don't operate on DKP. AG and Europa use DKP but don't mandate raiding while you're online or take away your spending ability for having poor raid attendance.

But yeah I'd put CSG as an entity on the top of the "serious casual raiding guilds" list.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simple definition for P99:

Hardcore raiding guilds = Awakened & Aftermath

Casual raiding guilds = all other guilds that raid regularly

So there's a spectrum of what "casual raiding" entails - you have the more serious casual raiders like Divinity, Anonymous, Rustle, CSG, etc., who have a small core of hardcore raiders but are generally accommodating to a more casual playstyle, and you have guilds that raid semi-regularly but don't really have that core of hardcore people like Infernus, Clue, Fires of Heaven, et al.

as a casual player I think casual raiding involves most or all of the following:
- no dkp
- no required raid attendance
- raids are generally impromptu, not scheduled
- lax about level requirements
- no tracking, socking, or batphones

not many guilds on p99 fit this bill, granted, but some do. I look at most guilds that raid as not-very-casual. they generally require a significantly higher time commitment than I and most casual players I know are willing to invest in the game. so it's hard for me to call this a definition of "casual raiding". suppose it's all relative.

and yes, I'm aware that following these guidelines will get you few if any high end targets, but I look at that as somebody else's problem. ain't worth it for me. being able to say that is probably a good a definition of "casual" as any.