The legality of vigilantism is fundamentally flawed

[Jarnauga]

lol

You guys are closer to sharia laws than you think, you just don't call it that way [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol

You guys are closer to sharia laws than you think, you just don't call it that way [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right because killing criminals is the same as criminalizing trivial things like aldutery or homosexuality and maiming people for lesser crimes.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right because killing criminals is the same as criminalizing trivial things like aldutery or homosexuality and maiming people for lesser crimes.

There's so much you're missing with this topic that I'm gonna sharpen your shovel so that you can dig better.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's so much you're missing with this topic that I'm gonna sharpen your shovel so that you can dig better.

Well, to be fair (fare? Don't feel like googling that) you are the one who suggested executing children for taking gum ^^

From the criminal's perspective though,

Would you rather live your life bearing the shame of your transgressions loudly declared by a maiming that has rendered you dependent on the society you have violated, or would you rather liberate society of your burden?

From society's perspective,

Would you rather subject someone to the forgoing, or rid them of their shame and the free the good peoples of that burden. Why should upstanding individuals be punished for the failures of others?

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, to be fair (fare? Don't feel like googling that) you are the one who suggested executing children for taking gum ^^

From the criminal's perspective though,

Would you rather live your life bearing the shame of your transgressions loudly declared by a maiming that has rendered you dependent on the society you have violated, or would you rather liberate society of your burden?

From society's perspective,

Would you rather subject someone to the forgoing, or rid them of their shame and the free the good peoples of that burden. Why should upstanding individuals be punished for the failures of others?

That's like assuming criminals won't be able to get guns.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's like assuming criminals won't be able to get guns.

Not sure I follow you here :/ Are you suggesting criminals wouldn't willingly choose execution over a lost hand? You are probably right for most, but that is because they are depraved. I am simply laying the case that capital punishment is infinitely superior and in no way analogous (finally learned how to fucking spell that!) to the backwards barbarism of Sharia law.

Killing criminals is the rational thing to do
It is the just thing to do
It is the compassionate thing to do

How can it not be the right thing to do?

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure I follow you here :/ Are you suggesting criminals wouldn't willingly choose execution over a lost hand? You are probably right for most, but that is because they are depraved. I am simply laying the case that capital punishment is infinitely superior and in no way analogous (finally learned how to fucking spell that!) to the backwards barbarism of Sharia law.

Killing criminals is the rational thing to do
It is the just thing to do
It is the compassionate thing to do

How can it not be the right thing to do?

No need for us to become barbarians and start maiming people. All we need is some prison reform. Watched a doc on Japanese prisons recently. They are kept segregated and forced to work. There is no ability to create gangs within the prison and they learn a skill and work off their debt. As it is now for the degenerates who are criminals jail becomes second nature where they know they will get 3 squares and TV with their pals and in some cases more drugs than on the street.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not sure I follow you here :/ Are you suggesting criminals wouldn't willingly choose execution over a lost hand? You are probably right for most, but that is because they are depraved. I am simply laying the case that capital punishment is infinitely superior and in no way analogous (finally learned how to fucking spell that!) to the backwards barbarism of Sharia law.

Killing criminals is the rational thing to do
It is the just thing to do
It is the compassionate thing to do

How can it not be the right thing to do?

Sharia has nothing to do with it. Your basis was that there is an inherent sense of shame in the criminal and that they would rather be put to death due to their shame. If they don't have a sense of shame, which you shouldn't because it isn't 1500's puritanical law anymore, then how could they feel shame that they would need liberation from via death. Get modern with your thoughts on this, research behaviorism, research profitability within criminal justice, research criminal justice reform, and weigh Santa's reform argument while comparing it to how and why criminal justice is applied.

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by maskedmelon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right because killing criminals is the same as criminalizing trivial things like aldutery or homosexuality and maiming people for lesser crimes.

give me a good reason why we shouldn't torture a pedophile [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cut the hand of a thief: hey at least after he won't steal again, win win win

homosexuality is a disease, let's send them to clinics where they'll be sent electroshocks. Even if it doesn't work, at least it will ake them learn

etc, etc, etc..

of course "vigilantism" is a politically correct way of advocating lynchings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Jarnauga [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

give me a good reason why we shouldn't torture a pedophile [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Waste of resources and destroying oneself for vengeance is folly.

Cut the hand of a thief: hey at least after he won't steal again, win win win

They may be more frightened to, but it renders them less capable of caring for themselves and introduces addition al burden on society.

homosexuality is a disease, let's send them to clinics where they'll be sent electroshocks. Even if it doesn't work, at least it will ake them learn

This is just stupid ^^

etc, etc, etc..

What else? ^^

of course "vigilantism" is a politically correct way of advocating lynchings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not advocating vigilantism ^^ I think government should do what I proposed in the interest of the people.