So no chardok & no bard kiting... discuss

[azeth]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not from 2000, but guide from late 2001 calling Sebilis AOE "evolving and an everyday event". "Sebilis AoE - The how to, Quellious server" http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthr...ellious-server

From your own source:

"5. Don't get greedy. Pull in small groups and lock your mobs down. I would rather pull two-four at a time and have one enc on stun duty and the other on mez to lock them down than drop because my greedy ass went for the new world record. You can pull every mob in sebilis not behind a locked door with patience. If the puller drops then it doesn't take long for things to go awry. AoE doesn't allow for mistakes, and the punishment is severe."

read b4 post

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by azeth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

read b4 post

LOL.

Looting ~ ALWAYS hook up the cleric with the first few gems. Especially in sebilis, they drop every 2 seconds when you're pulling up to 40.

That's 40, not 4.

When you have 800 points of epic skin to save your ass before you start getting hit, and 20 mobs on you that hit for 100+ all it takes is one stun and you will be dead in 2 seconds.

^^20

I've seen people use AE spells that hit four targets. I've seen enchanters think they're supposed to AE mez instead of stun when there's 20 on them.

^^ 20, specifically mentions people fucking up only using a 4 target AOE.

It can be very nice to see Cobalt Vambraces, a Bonecasters Robe, Cane of the Tranquil, 4 BD's, 2 Black sapphires, a Seb mantle, Book of Obulous, about 5 spells, 3 diamonds, and 30 or so random other gems drop off of one amazing pull.

Yup clearly they were only pulling 2-4 mobs at a time.

After all, you want the biggest train possible, don't you? =P

I like how you literally didn't read one fuckin word you disagreed with then told me to read before I post.

[skarlorn]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL.




That's 40, not 4.


^^20





^^ 20, specifically mentions people fucking up only using a 4 target AOE.






Yup clearly they were only pulling 2-4 mobs at a time.






I like how you literally didn't read one fuckin word you disagreed with then told me to read before I post.

u mad? sounds like you're wrong bud tbh.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Triiz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

extreme rustle

Given those things you've quoted, do you think a cap of 25 or 145 is more accurate?

[Triiz]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Given those things you've quoted, do you think a cap of 25 or 145 is more accurate?

Again, I think Chardok on p99 was total bullshit.

I certainly didn't post the links to defend Chardok, I didn't think AOEing large numbers of mobs was classic either but what do ya know 2 minutes on Google says it is.

One of those threads, from May 2001, the author says in a group with only 1 person who had ever even attempted AOE before was able to knock out 25 mobs in a pull. It stands to reason if they were doing up to 25 on a very first attempt they were doing more on a second attempt as that's just how EQ was and is.

As quoted in the earlier post they also say they were doing up to 40 mobs. Fear of wiping and inexperience is cited far more frequently as the reason for not pulling more mobs than lag.

Just pointing out it's inaccurate to say "More than 25 mobs on live was impossible due to technology" Was 100 possible? I doubt it, but the proof is there 40 was possible. If someone cares to look it up (not going to bother) I would bet there is a thread out there boasting about more than 40 mob pulls.

tl;dr Chardok sucks, more than 25 mobs were being pulled and AOE'd in early 2001.