Patch Notes: Monday, September 5th, 2016

[Beldan4]

While we do not aim to kill AE groups by any means, we do have to put some limitations on the number of mobs being killed at once, providing significant XP gain with very little risk,// as well as the zone disruptions that have come with it.

ok. First, I want to say on a RED server which is where I am from there is ALLWAYS sigenficant risk if anyone wants to screw you while your swarming belive me they can. snare a mob, root one, or just beat on your face while your trying to swarm. Plus lets face it, since PAOE spells from wizards and mages will hit enchanters / warriors trying to swarm those types of AE's groups don't really exist here.

Next the zone distruptions will not stop due to this, they will INCREASE. Bard pulls 100 mobs in a zone, well he'll just swarm down the first 25, then the next 25 ete. the duration of distruption has just increased possibly by a factor of 4 based on how far you are from the server and how much lag you experience.

I know red is small, but I believe we deserve a certain consiteration with this restriction. Just as we have the exp bonus to off set the fact that we can die at any time, we also have a way of dealing with our own disruptions.

I would also like to point out that swarms of this nature (ya I know same old QQ) is not "classic" infact it wasn't until just a few years ago that they finally clamped down on ALL types of swarming. Each time it was a stop gap measure, they nerf the bards, only to nerf the Eshakers, only to nerf the that clr buff, finally to nerf the beams. As far as I know they've never nerfed PBAE's.

[Giovanni]

Originally Posted by Beldan4 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

While we do not aim to kill AE groups by any means, we do have to put some limitations on the number of mobs being killed at once, providing significant XP gain with very little risk,// as well as the zone disruptions that have come with it.

ok. First, I want to say on a RED server which is where I am from there is ALLWAYS sigenficant risk if anyone wants to screw you while your swarming belive me they can. snare a mob, root one, or just beat on your face while your trying to swarm. Plus lets face it, since PAOE spells from wizards and mages will hit enchanters / warriors trying to swarm those types of AE's groups don't really exist here.

Next the zone distruptions will not stop due to this, they will INCREASE. Bard pulls 100 mobs in a zone, well he'll just swarm down the first 25, then the next 25 ete. the duration of distruption has just increased possibly by a factor of 4 based on how far you are from the server and how much lag you experience.

I know red is small, but I believe we deserve a certain consiteration with this restriction. Just as we have the exp bonus to off set the fact that we can die at any time, we also have a way of dealing with our own disruptions.

I would also like to point out that swarms of this nature (ya I know same old QQ) is not "classic" infact it wasn't until just a few years ago that they finally clamped down on ALL types of swarming. Each time it was a stop gap measure, they nerf the bards, only to nerf the Eshakers, only to nerf the that clr buff, finally to nerf the beams. As far as I know they've never nerfed PBAE's.

Need to ween these types of players on red off their non classic exp bonus nipple. Too much exp bonus the primary reason for low pop on red.

[Beldan4]

Originally Posted by Giovanni [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Need to ween these types of players on red off their non classic exp bonus nipple. Too much exp bonus the primary reason for low pop on red.

uhhh id like to know what your basing this off of. When TMO came over to Red they didn't leave because they leveled too fast. If anything it helped them get into the game faster. I watched SOME people leave because they caved under pressure.

I don't know who you are, but unless you have red experience to back yourself up don't make nonsensical claims about the demise of red.

[Lagaidh]

Originally Posted by Beldan4 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

uhhh id like to know what your basing this off of. When TMO came over to Red they didn't leave because they leveled too fast. If anything it helped them get into the game faster. I watched SOME people leave because they caved under pressure.

I don't know who you are, but unless you have red experience to back yourself up don't make nonsensical claims about the demise of red.

I'm a middle of the road guy. I try a lot of things. However, when it comes to my class, I'm always a paladin, so it's no surprise I hated the EQ model of PvP in those early days. That and I ran into my first grief players.

After finishing out what a dwarf can do on his own on P99 and scrolling past thread after thread after thread about R99, I thought I'd try it.

I played a couple of toons: druid in case the wife wanted to play (and drop transfers wherever I am), then my paladin. Got them to around 35 and have a few stitches of gear.

I lay all this out to say the following: Red 99 will never ever matter to this community. It's the ambiance. I knocked around on red for a few weeks and I have to say, chat is just toxic. It was toxic a few years back when I tried and still was as of a few months ago when I just logged out and quit. I get why many R99ers love talking smack, I do. It's fun to rib your compatriots in competition.

I'm from redneckistan in Virginia. I understand that I won't attract others to my hamlet by acting like a full redneck at all times. Just won't happen. Oh I'll appeal to people who are already like me, but then that's just the same shit again and again isn't it?

I've tried Red as a bluebie in two different eras around here and each time it was the same: a cesspool of what seems to be socially maladjusted folks hurling insult bombs at each other that are designed to be maximally offensive to anyone that can get the ASCII on their screen.

I've already been 13. It was fun to be an obnoxious asshole then. By the time I was 17 the luster had long stopped shining on that particular comedy styling.

It did for a lot of us a long time ago.

Red won't die. It seems to consistently hold 10% of the total P99 population. And as you'd like for folks to quit predicting Red's demise, I'd appreciate it if more Red players would realize there's no Blue exodus coming. I'd also appreciate it if more Red players can understand what Blue players do: we simply don't want to play in your box /grin. Acknowledge that your brand of play is the outlying fashion here.

That and I saw the word "******" WAAAY too much in chat on Red.

[Beldan4]

Originally Posted by Lagaidh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm a middle of the road guy. I try a lot of things. However, when it comes to my class, I'm always a paladin, so it's no surprise I hated the EQ model of PvP in those early days. That and I ran into my first grief players.

After finishing out what a dwarf can do on his own on P99 and scrolling past thread after thread after thread about R99, I thought I'd try it.

I played a couple of toons: druid in case the wife wanted to play (and drop transfers wherever I am), then my paladin. Got them to around 35 and have a few stitches of gear.

I lay all this out to say the following: Red 99 will never ever matter to this community. It's the ambiance. I knocked around on red for a few weeks and I have to say, chat is just toxic. It was toxic a few years back when I tried and still was as of a few months ago when I just logged out and quit. I get why many R99ers love talking smack, I do. It's fun to rib your compatriots in competition.

I'm from redneckistan in Virginia. I understand that I won't attract others to my hamlet by acting like a full redneck at all times. Just won't happen. Oh I'll appeal to people who are already like me, but then that's just the same shit again and again isn't it?

I've tried Red as a bluebie in two different eras around here and each time it was the same: a cesspool of what seems to be socially maladjusted folks hurling insult bombs at each other that are designed to be maximally offensive to anyone that can get the ASCII on their screen.

I've already been 13. It was fun to be an obnoxious asshole then. By the time I was 17 the luster had long stopped shining on that particular comedy styling.

It did for a lot of us a long time ago.

Red won't die. It seems to consistently hold 10% of the total P99 population. And as you'd like for folks to quit predicting Red's demise, I'd appreciate it if more Red players would realize there's no Blue exodus coming. I'd also appreciate it if more Red players can understand what Blue players do: we simply don't want to play in your box /grin. Acknowledge that your brand of play is the outlying fashion here.

That and I saw the word "******" WAAAY too much in chat on Red.

ok. ill admit Red is a cesspool of slime, that slime sticks to you in ways and in places that cuase most people to cringe and fall away. However it doesn't HAVE to be that way. I came from VZ. The only server that had real honor as far as I could tell. You acted like a douche in pvp, no high end guild would touch you. Your name was Blacklisted and you might as well RR.

Lets face it, we ALL play this wishing to re-live our glory days. I know I won't find it on red, but its closer then blue, ive been on blue (on live). I refuse to be a typewriter monkey.